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Old 11-15-2004, 10:21 AM
otnemem otnemem is offline
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Default My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

I believe we're at level three, $100-$200 with a $25 ante. I'm trucking along, making a bit of progress but nothing huge. I think I'm around 18K. Our table is nine-handed. I'm on the button in seat six. Folded to seat three, who opens for six or seven hundred. Four calls, five folds. I look down at AKo. I make it $2500. The blinds fold, back to seat three. He thinks for a about twenty seconds and calls. Four folds. The flop comes K-7-7, two clubs. Seat four checks, I move all in (big bet, but there was a lot of money in the pot, and I just wanted to pull it back without a hassle). He calls quickly, and I'm already dreading aces or kings when he flips... (answer below, in white).

<font color="white"> 7-9 of spades


<font color="black"> Did I play the flop too quickly? Could I have put him on this kind of hand, given the preflop action? Should I have worried about Aces or Kings, or even Sevens?? While the hand didn't kill me, it crippled me to the point where I couldn't make anything move anymore. Thanks for any advice...
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:14 AM
slickpoppa slickpoppa is offline
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

That's a rough hand, but I think moving all-in was a bit rash and unneccesary. If he completely missed the flop with a hand like a low pp, even a half pot sized bet would have pushed him out. The only drawing hand that you might really need to bet heavy against is the club draw. But by moving all-in you are betting more than is necessary to defend the pot and putting yourself in a situation where you will only get called if you are way behind or even dead.
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

i don't think it's too bad really, you want to pick up the pot there- and you ran into some trash that hit a homerun

you were obviously looking to push out a flush draw and played it a little too fast- but you look like a genius of the dumbass calls with ax s

if you raise and he reraise what are you going to do then fold 2 pair with top kicker? if you had taken that line then you will have almost generated the odds for ax to call you.

tough break..
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Old 11-15-2004, 11:23 AM
otnemem otnemem is offline
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

Yeah, the bet was probably a bit over the top. I think I got myself in a spot where I didn't want to have to think about what would happen next. He pretty much hit the perfect flop, and it just seemed so unlikely that he'd have me beat on that flop.
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:03 PM
Messy Harry Messy Harry is offline
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

That's what you get for playing with Gus Hansen! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:10 PM
Annie Duke Annie Duke is offline
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

The funny thing is my brother, Howard, told me this hand at dinner break. Your opponent was Lyle Berman. Howard thought you played the hand great and was shocked Lyle called with 79 before the flop. Your bet is not bad after the flop as it makes it very difficult for a flush to call you. If you bet 5k or so and Lyle moves in it is also very hard for you to get away from the hand.

Just thought you would like to know that my brother told me the hand at dinner cause he thought it was such a bad beat!

Annie Duke
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:10 PM
otnemem otnemem is offline
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

At least if it was Hansen I could have anticipated a call like this. But even in that situation with im, I think it would be tough to get away from with a board like that.
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:17 PM
HiatusOver HiatusOver is offline
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

Hmmmm Annie, I think the big mistake our Hero made in this hand was his pre-flop raise. Lyle's call of an extra 1800 was far from a horrible pre-flop call...the pot as reported had about 6000 in it when he called that extra 1800. I think if we make it 3500 before the flop out of position we dont get a bunch of floaters who have position on us
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

looks more like 4500 to me...
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Old 11-15-2004, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: My Foxwoods Main Event Demise

Yeah Howard was right across from me for that one. I actually just wrote him to ask him his opinion of the play, as I didn't get a chance to ask him during the break. Glad to hear he thought it was the correct play. The worst part was having to hear the hand explained every time a pro would come over during the break and ask how Lyle got so many chips. That was my first big buy-in tournament, and the fact that my stack was crippled so badly on a hand like that was really disappointing.
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