BlackJack Question

[Lama]

Anyone know where i can find hi-opt II Matrice(I think there is no book on hi-opt II) or Uston APC(my book store say Ken Uston's Million Dollar Blackjack is no longer in print?)

[As Zehn]

Try the following; www.bj21.com, www.advantageplayer.com, www.gamblersbook.com & www.qfit.com. Good luck. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[npc]

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Anyone know where i can find hi-opt II Matrice(I think there is no book on hi-opt II)

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I don't know of a book that explains the hi-opt II. I
*think* this was only described in an advanced course/system presented by Lance Humble, but I could be mistaken.

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or Uston APC(my book store say Ken Uston's Million Dollar Blackjack is no longer in print?)

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The only place I've seen this is in Million Dollar Blackjack. I can only suggest scouring the secondary market for this book. I just checked, and at the present time 7 copies are available used through Amazon for as little as $11 (plus S+H).

A couple of comments:

1) An analysis of most of these systems (although they're not always named) occurs in Peter Griffin's excellent "Theory of Blackjack".

2) There's a good reason that these systems aren't being published any more. Not only are they more complicated than single level counts, but Griffin demonstrates that they're not any better than some level one counts, especially against shoe games. I see no practical reason to stray from either the Hi-Low or KO systems.

3) Among multi-level count systems, these aren't very good. If I *were* going to learn a multi-level count, I'd definitely work with Carlson's Advanced Omega II.

So, I don't know what you're going for, but that's what I got.

Hope this helps.

[bernie]

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I don't know of a book that explains the hi-opt II. I
*think* this was only described in an advanced course/system presented by Lance Humble, but I could be mistaken

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'The world's greatest BJ book' by Humble and Cooper.

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[As Zehn]

That book only covers Hi Opt I.

[college kid]

I think Wong's Pro BJ book has it. If not, you can find them yourself by getting some of the software from www.advantageplayer.com or www.bj21.com. I'm assuming you already know the plus/minus values and you just need the indicies. If you need the actual count, I can provide that or you can just easily look on Google.

[maynard]

I played Hi-Opt II for quite some time, and found it no more difficult (with practice of course) than Hi-Opt I which I used previously. Particularly for the pitch games I concentrated on, Hi-Opt II and AOII are actually very comparable (each one is negligibly better when tweaking game parameters), but both are considerably more powerful than any level 1 count. See BJA2 for SCORE comparisons, or run some simulations, it's really not even close. Of all multi-level counts, Hi-Opt II and AOII are certainly amongst the best, and this includes more complex counts (halves, etc.)

No book covers Hi-Opt II - but if you're serious about the game you should really invest in SBJ anyway and generate your own indices. Then you also have complete control over specific game conditions, risk-averseness, etc. The extra effort for a level 2 count can be made up by ignoring most of the indices - the first 40-45 will get you 90%+ of your potential gain in single/double deck (roughly, Schlesinger's I18 plus 20 or so). This ancient thread (posted by my alter-ego) ranks the indices by profit for a typical single deck game, with cumulative gains so you can choose your own cut-off.

http://www.bjmath.com/bin-cgi/bjmath.pl?read=3452

If you're talking shoe games, the ace side count would be more difficult, and the gain-to-effort ratio smaller... but then again, I avoid shoe games like the plague anyway. Good luck...

[bernie]

I thought he might have been mistaken. High opt 1 is plenty.

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