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Overpair, and I use that term loosely
This hand was from awhile ago, so if I had any read on the villan, I no longer remember what it was. Comments on all streets welcome.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>. Flop: (7.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls. Turn: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls. River: (7.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, Hero ? |
#2
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
bet...UTG+1 is A-high
--Casey |
#3
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
Hero bets for value. If the J hit him, he would be likely to bet the turn. My guess is he has overcards and could pay you off at the end.
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
Preflop, flop, and turn, all look fine. With the way the hand was played it appears that you will almost always be ahead on the river. I think he calls with A high more than he calls with a hand that beats you so the river is a value bet.
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#5
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
Bet. AK/AQ will call enough to make this worthwhile.
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#6
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
Well, it's all been said already, I agree with everyone else, this looks like an easy value bet. If he's got a jack he would be crazy not to bet or checkraise on the turn and then go for a checkraise on the river. I'd be very confident in betting the river on this one.
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#7
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Results
River: (7.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.75 BB <font color="green">Main Pot: 11.75 BB, between UTG+1 and Hero.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by UTG+1 (11.75 BB).</font> UTG+1 has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and fours). Hero has 7h 7c (two pair, sevens and fours). Outcome: UTG+1 wins 11.75 BB. I got pizowned -- really made me feel foolish. I'm glad everyone else bets the river. I guess I am supposed to fold to the river check-raise? But it's such an atypical move, I felt obliged to look him up, both to prevent future strange bluffs, and frankly, out of curiosities' sake. I saw the second four and said to myself "No way did he raise UTG with a 4" and thusly paid him off. Were I villan and I was feeling tricky I may have smooth-called the flop raise in order to go for a turn check-raise. But I never would have considered his line, and he most certainly extracted the maximum given my holding (If I have KK or QQ he gets the same, but with 77, I probably fold to turn check-raise). Should I be looking for places to take his line heads up? |
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
I agree with the others about the river.
I muck preflop though. with only one other player in, I muck 99 and 3-bet TT. |
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Re: Results
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(If I have KK or QQ he gets the same, but with 77, I probably fold to turn check-raise) [/ QUOTE ] Dumb comment by me. Obviously villan knows I don't have AA-JJ with no pre-flop 3bet. [ QUOTE ] I muck preflop though. with only one other player in [/ QUOTE ] I assumed I had a reasonable expectation of 4-5 people seeing the flop; with two cold-callers, blinds will come long pretty often. I was incorrect in this case. So what do people think of villan's line? On further reflection, it seems poor. There are three possiblities for my holding: 1) I am on a draw in which case I might have taken a free card on the turn and folded the river, making his turn check a disaster; 2) I flopped a set, straight or two-pair, he never finds out where he's at and earlier and his river raise gets 3-bet which he has to call; 3) I have a marginal holding 66-TT, and he extracts the maximum. |
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Re: Overpair, and I use that term loosely
Go ahead and bet here. He is calling you with A2/A3 and more.
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