QJ, Top Pair

Farrquaad · #1 10-31-2004, 03:59 AM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG folds, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qd Jh (one pair, jacks).
MP3 has 3c 7c (straight, seven high).
CO has Jc Qh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins 13.50 BB.

JDErickson · #2 10-31-2004, 04:01 AM

Bet the river. Why did you check???

Douglas Leslie · #3 10-31-2004, 08:12 AM

He must have realised that MP3 was the kind of player who would come in with 73 and then call on the turn with a gutshot draw without anything approaching the correct pot odds. I agree that you have to bet the river here, and if you lose to a bozo who has bet this kind of hand you should console yourself with the thought that you will get the chance to play other hands against him. If he leaves the table you should just head for the pub and drown your sorrows!

afk · #4 10-31-2004, 11:47 AM

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Bet the river. Why did you check???

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Farrquaad · #5 10-31-2004, 01:14 PM

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He must have realised that MP3 was the kind of player who would come in with 73 and then call on the turn with a gutshot draw without anything approaching the correct pot odds.

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A lot of players at Party play this way, and recently a lot of them have been beating me with this junk. I saw 3 to a straight and 3 to a flush and thought there's a good chance one of these guys caught something.

If the advice is, suck it up and bet, then I'm going to give that strong consideration next time.

Douglas Leslie · #6 10-31-2004, 01:36 PM

In the long run it is not a good idea to base all your decisions on whether or not to bet on the possibility that your opponent is insane. There are very few hands that he can sensibly have that will beat you, so you should bet. If it turns out that he has fluked his way to a winning hand, you know that nine times out of ten when you play this guy you will beat him. Maybe I should switch to Party from UB if the opposition all play so badly!

elitegimp · #7 10-31-2004, 01:48 PM

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Maybe I should switch to Party from UB if the opposition all play so badly!

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there have been several threads comparing UB to Party recently (and by several, I mean "at least one") -- if you can handle really loose games and the high variance they bring, party is the place to be.

Heat · #8 10-31-2004, 03:36 PM

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In the long run it is not a good idea to base all your decisions on whether or not to bet on the possibility that your opponent is insane.

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hehehe right unless you have strong evidence to the contrary.

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Maybe I should switch to Party from UB if the opposition all play so badly!

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They sure do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]