What do I do when I have a decent hand and this happens...

ZimbuTheMonkey · #1 10-21-2004, 11:18 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button folds.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 7s 2s (two pair, sevens and twos).
UTG has Tc Qs (one pair, tens).
MP2 has Ts Jc (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.75 BB. 

I always tend to check. Most of the time, I am beaten by a person holding one of the two necessary straight cards. Should I call the bet anyway when an opponent bets after my check?

Entity · #2 10-21-2004, 11:20 PM

On a board like this, I bet the river and fold to a raise. You should really review the sections in TOP and SSH on river betting.

Rob

ZimbuTheMonkey · #3 10-21-2004, 11:31 PM

Yeah, I've been meaning to re-read SSH.

Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ggano · #4 10-21-2004, 11:42 PM

That river could give someone a runner-runner gutshot straight. Possible, but not very likely. Going into check/call mode here is very weak.

In general, I might or might not worry about someone who might have an OESD on the flop (if the river could complete their straight). I don't worry much about gutshots or backdoors, unless there are a lot of opponents. Meaning, I won't go into check/call mode.

BTW what 2 cards are you talking about? Only a 9 makes the straight here.

Emperor · #5 10-21-2004, 11:42 PM

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On a board like this, I bet the river and fold to a raise. You should really review the sections in TOP and SSH on river betting.

Rob

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What do you do about all the morons who raise bluff the river? I keep catching more and more of them...

Entity · #6 10-22-2004, 02:20 AM

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On a board like this, I bet the river and fold to a raise. You should really review the sections in TOP and SSH on river betting.

Rob

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What do you do about all the morons who raise bluff the river? I keep catching more and more of them...

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Make a note on them, and bet into them to induce a bluff, then call a raise. Just make sure you note them carefully, as most of the time you're raised on the river, the player has the goods.

Rob

Chris Daddy Cool · #7 10-22-2004, 05:23 AM

bet this river.

you won't get raised by anything that can't beat middle and bottom pair. so you can safely fold to a raise.

helpmeout · #8 10-22-2004, 05:45 AM

Have to checkraise this flop. You have a weak 2 pair on a flush board any T, overcards or a flushdraw will likely bet here so would 98.

Bet the river, against 2 opponents is pretty unlikely that one has a 9, against 3 I would probably check/call.

kiemo · #9 10-22-2004, 09:42 AM

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Have to checkraise this flop. You have a weak 2 pair on a flush board any T, overcards or a flushdraw will likely bet here so would 98.

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You are confident enough in your reads at this table that you know one of these players is going to bet here?

I lead out with this hand 100% of the time, as giving a free card here is quite possibly the worst thing you can do.

TheHip41 · #10 10-22-2004, 09:46 AM

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Have to checkraise this flop. You have a weak 2 pair on a flush board any T, overcards or a flushdraw will likely bet here so would 98.

Bet the river, against 2 opponents is pretty unlikely that one has a 9, against 3 I would probably check/call.

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Bottom two pair with a flush and straight draw is no place to get tricky on the flop. Bet the flop