Paradise NL25 Awful turn

Mikey2k4 · #1 10-17-2004, 06:33 PM

First hand on the table:

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($11.10)
UTG+2 ($12.20)
MP1 ($18.90)
MP2 ($24.75)
MP3 ($39.05)
Hero ($25.00)
Button ($10.95)
SB ($24.25)
BB ($42.30)
UTG ($59.02)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $0.5, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.

This is worth a call, right? I'm playing for some flush value (beware nut flush) and a K with OK kicker.

Flop: ($2.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $4, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls $2.

I decide to bet out, representing an ace, maybe even top two pair. I still have a backdoor nut flush draw and I should be able to trap some Aces. The check-raise is a bit scary, as he could have AK, but we'll see.

Turn: ($10.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero folds.

Ugh. No chance for my flush and villain could easily have a set. Easy fold on my part.

Final Pot: $14.50
Main Pot: $10.50, won by SB.
Pot 2: $4, returned to SB.

The question is not really in the fold, but how were the bets? i.e. the call preflop, the raise on the flop, and the call of the check-raise?

TheGrifter · #2 10-17-2004, 06:38 PM

The hand itself isn't too interesting, I'll usually re-raise the flop, but I wanted to point out that an 8 is not an okay kicker for your king, it's a crap kicker, it's no kicker, it's inconsequential. Play this hand if you'll play K2s but fold it if you won't.

Mr. Sakuraba · #3 10-17-2004, 06:41 PM

In my opinion this hand is a fold once its raised preflop.

TheGrifter · #4 10-17-2004, 06:49 PM

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In my opinion this hand is a fold once its raised preflop.

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Nothing wrong with playing it getting 8-1. As long as you don't fall in love with a 2nd best hand. You've got great position.

BlueBear · #5 10-18-2004, 12:21 AM

This "poster" has an unhealthy obsession in min-raising.

Mikey2k4 · #6 10-18-2004, 03:27 AM

You mean me? When did I min raise in the post? I hardly ever min raise period. (Unless I'm interpreting you incorrectly.)

BlueBear · #7 10-18-2004, 12:41 PM

my apologies for the confusion. I was referring to the "small blind"