Paul Phillips what is he getting at about online poker, and which one?

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Well what if you went to the local B&M casino to play poker, and when it came time to cash out, the manager instructed the cashier to pay your cashout to another local player whom he believed you owed the money to?

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Presume the player that owes you the money was sent to jail for several months. Would you wait patiently the several months and hope when he gets out he'll get his act together and pay you off? Or would you, if you had the the power, just debit it from his online account and square things up?

I would just square things up and let him know I did.

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I think there is an issue of propriety here. While online poker rooms are not banks, if you owed your bank manager money and he simply took it out of your account what would you think of that?

Or let's say the debt is disputed somehow in the online scenario (if it wasn't then presumably the player would have transferred the funds prior to this). Does the custodian of funds have the right to just take them?

I might do the same thing too if I had the power and if someone wouldn't pay me a legitimate debt. That doesn't mean I would be comfortable seeing an online poker room take such action, because how do I know they are completely correct? Taking it to the next step, would this manager decide to do the samne thing for a friend of his who he believes owes someone money?

I'm not saying it is necessarily wrong, especially under certain circumstances, but it makes me uncomfortable and is probably bad for business once it becomes known. I must say I would feel a bit more leery about being a customer of that poker room on general principle, even though I personally don't owe anyone in the poker community any money and therefore wouldn't have to worry about it happening to me.

[nolanfan34]

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Who thinks paul is sick of seeing his name in thread titles? I do!

All he has to do is stop using innuendo and say what he means and that will probably stop happening.

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In Paul's defense, this is something he posted on his live journal, not here. People choose to keep reposting his posts from the journal.

Anyway, I noticed he's made a follow up post, and from the additional information he gives, I think he's referring to Ultimate Bet. Just my uneducated guess, but I know he's spoken about not playing in the Aruba tournament because I believe he mentioned he doesn't trust UB. I'll try to find the exact quote, but I don't believe I'm putting words in his mouth.

[LeapingGnome]

Yes, this is illegal. There was a big lawsuit not too long ago in a similar scenario. Company is called Cendant, they own all kinds of stuff including Avis rent-a-car, Jackson Hewitt taxes, etc...

Anyway, person goes to Jackson Hewitt for their taxes. Well it happens this person owes another division of Cendant a lot of money so when Jackson Hewitt files their taxes they have the refund signed over to them from the IRS and take the amount owed from the refund.

The person sued, Cendant lost the case.

[Bernas]

Hmmm...are you implying something here? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[beanie]

Paul doesn't seem the type to gossip, that was hilarious, I may not stop laughing all night.

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Not me