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Old 10-12-2004, 10:31 PM
housenuts housenuts is offline
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Default all same suited flop - i got TP

i've never known what to do when the flop comes all of the same suit. i can never put someone on a flush, especially heads up. maybe a draw, but i never expect them to have the made flush already. what do you do in this situation?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (2 handed)

Hero (t8600)
BB (t4900)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1025) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t1200</font>, BB calls t1200.

Turn: (t3425) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets t3400</font>, BB calls t3075 (All-In).

River: (t9900) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t9900
<font color="green">Main Pot: t9575 (t9575), between Hero and BB.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t325 (t325), returned to Hero.</font>
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:20 PM
housenuts housenuts is offline
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Default Re: all same suited flop - i got TP

i always forget to put in the buy-in. $20+2
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: all same suited flop - i got TP

I'm not expert...but heads up you're getting chased by A/Kspades regardless of betting.
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:47 PM
xerostar xerostar is offline
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Default Re: all same suited flop - i got TP

heads up you can always assume he doesn't have the flush. In reality though, how can you really tell? Top pair with a great kicker is usually enough reason to push on the flop heads up, no matter how connected the board is.
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Old 10-13-2004, 12:02 AM
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so you're saying i should have pushed the flop?
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Old 10-13-2004, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: all same suited flop - i got TP

This is a tough one. If he's got a high spade, he's probably coming for all his money given the chip counts. It's unlikely he's already got the flush so I wouldn't worry about it. I would be tempted to check behind on the flop. If a non-spade comes off, then you can put him to the test. If your check induces a bet on the turn, then you have a tough decision to make. All in all, I think your play was fine, but I think waiting until the turn to bet/raise may be a little bit better, so as to put maximum pressure on him in case he has one spade (and save money if the spade does hit).

One question though. Is the hand converter messed up? Those chip totals don't make sense. There should be 1200 in the pot on the flop, 3600 on the turn. And the BB calls don't add up: 600+1200+3075 = 4875. Was there a rake or ante?
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Old 10-13-2004, 08:23 PM
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One question though. Is the hand converter messed up? Those chip totals don't make sense. There should be 1200 in the pot on the flop, 3600 on the turn. And the BB calls don't add up: 600+1200+3075 = 4875. Was there a rake or ante?

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hmmm..that's weird. i can't find the hand history anymore either. the converter must be messed. i'm not sure if that was at the first level of 100/200 or the 2nd level where there's a 25 ante. either way the pot after the flop should be either 1200 or 1250, i don't see where 1025 comes from.

as for the result of the hand, my opponent did actually have 2 spades in his hand.
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