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Old 10-12-2004, 04:51 AM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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It will depend quite sizeably on each woman's background and conception of kinship ties. Some woman will still think of the child, if alive, as "her child" (after providing biological ties to the child, but no social or nurturing roles).

Such a woman who is concerned with biological kinship may choose to have the foetus destroyed to prevent "her child" being alive in the world with her knowledge.

I reckon this group may be up to 20%, so i'd say somewhere between 4-1 and 3-1 would take the "keep it living and get it adopted question".

And related themes of overpopulation are relevant too.

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Old 10-12-2004, 05:12 AM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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Occam's Razor:

100 percent of the women seek an abortion:

Now they have a choice of whether

a. to abort it
b. to use Mr. David's new device.

Assuming no other variables are in the decision, it's a 50/50 chance they will choose a or b.

So is the answer 50 percent? Or am I being too elementary and thus need to pull my Econometrics 320 textbook out from the shelf and start punching in some regressions?
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Old 10-12-2004, 05:33 AM
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I don't think that the question is that simple. You seem to introduce a new variable into the old argument. A woman aborting a 10 week old fetus without the option to have the fetus incubated and cared for is much different than what the hypo lays out.

I know you directed the hypo at women who claim that they have a right to control their own body. But I think a necessary prerequisite to that argument is that those women don't view a 10 week old fetus as a life whereas your hypo "gives" that fetus life.

For those that view a fetus as mere bodily tissue, there are no life and death considerations when deciding whether to abort. Given that, I don't think the facts of the hypo really mesh with the end question.
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:07 AM
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In the absence of extenuating circumstances, 100% would take the deal.
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:13 AM
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72%

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Old 10-12-2004, 06:34 AM
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Since these women have never argued that they have a right to decide the life or death fate of their babies once it is out of their bodies, they should, if consistent, accept my deal.

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Why is it inconsistent to refuse your deal? Just because they have never used an argument doesn't mean its inconsistent with the arguments they have used. Here you are forcing them to decide the fate of the fetus and I can't see anything in your post that makes either choice inconsistent with anything the women believe.

If the fetus could make a choice for itself then there could be a problem if the women disagreed.

Can they refuse to make any choice and leave it up to Dr David?


I wrote some stuff on why few would accept your offer but decided I dont know what I'm talking about so I deleted it. Its bad enough posting rubbish when I think I know what I'm talking about without posting stuff which I'm sure is rubbish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 10-12-2004, 08:02 AM
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Like someone posted above, the number is absolutely within 50-100%. I can't imagine MORE than half of the women just wanting to kill their child even if they know it can grow up in a nice household. SOME will, not wanting their child to be without its mother.

I'll go with 75%, right down the middle of that half.

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Old 10-12-2004, 08:18 AM
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Heinlien said, "There is no such thing as a free lunch." and Steamboatin said, "There is no such thing as a simple abortion question."
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Old 10-12-2004, 09:10 AM
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Hi David -

Now, let's see what the correlation is between these two random variables:

- The answer the poster gives to your question.
- The degree to which the poster thinks that abortion should be legal.

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Old 10-12-2004, 09:33 AM
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