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10-08-2004, 04:49 AM
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How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
I have to admit, when faced with KTs, I can't rattle off how to play in each situation in tight and loose games. Can you?
Do you look at your hand then assess it with respect to position, or do you see what position you're going to be in and think about the hands that you can raise or limp with? It seems that to play well multitabling, you have to make good preflop decisions to set up your good post-flop play. I'm not sure that I could look at a table, see that my tight-table QJs has been limped to by MP1 and CO, and immediately know that I have to raise. Not yet. Same situation with A8s? Again, I have a problem raising. J7s from the CO in a loose game? I have trouble remembering to limp. How about you? 
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#2
10-08-2004, 04:54 AM
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Re: How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
Honestly, I treat SSH as a guideline to be considered - not as my decision-maker. Second to position, the most important thing is my read on players. If I see that the UTG limper only plays 8% of his hands, I'm folding KJ even on the button - yet if I see that a LAG has raised from CO and I'm in this same position, I will seriously consider a reraise.
SSHE has great logic in it - but I'm not going to remember everything Ed says - and ultimately - the decisions need to make sense to me. If I'm basing my play on a book, I will never really get better as a player. If I can justify why I'm making a decision, explain it to my friend, and then explain why I wouldn't make the same decision were variables x,y, and z different - THEN I'm improving my play.
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#3
10-08-2004, 05:32 AM
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Re: How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
Sure, I understand that you don't want to treat the book as canon without regard to player reads. SSHE says so right after the reccomendations in "Some Quick Notes on the Reccomendations!" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] That being said, I still want to think to myself, "I normally would limp with KQs in MP1 or cold-call a raise, but EP who opened with a raise is such a tight player, that I'll pitch it." That still uses the reccomendations as a basis, with a concious decision to deviate based on the player read. And I still don't know thre reccomendations well enough to do that.
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#5
10-08-2004, 06:53 AM
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Re: How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
The way I approach pre-flop is that I have a rough idea of what hands I'm opening the pot with and where (pretty close to Abdul's openers.) From there, you're better off learning the value of a given hand in a given situation and figuring out where you're at given the players, table texture and action.
Does this hand play best multi-way? Heads-up? Raised pot? Unraised pot? How often am I paying off with it? Any action suggesting that I'm dominated? How much value is lost when I'm out of postion? From there, I'm looking to fold or take the course of action that sets up the best possible situation for my hand on the flop. If you're not that far out of line and avoid situations that are above your head, lots of money isn't made/lost pre-flop.
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#7
10-08-2004, 08:42 AM
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Re: How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
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J7s from the CO in a loose game? I have trouble remembering to limp. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it says to play this. Edit* NM it does. WOO HOO I get to be even MORE loose now! I can't wait to get this hand!!!
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#8
10-08-2004, 09:24 AM
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Re: How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
I use a cheat sheet and modify my actions according to game situations. As time goes by I refer to it less often as my memory is getting better.
Run a search for the thread titled "SSH Preflop hand reccommendation chart" from a few weeks ago if you're interested in getting a chart the easy way.
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#9
10-08-2004, 09:43 AM
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Re: How well do you know the SSHE Pre-Flop Hand Reccomendations?
I think what has been said about treating the recommendations
as guidelines makes a lot of sence. When I am multitabling at microlimits, however, I usually play much tighter than SSHE recommends. With more tables, it's harder to get reads on my opponents, and make the correct postflop decisions. I'm not shore that this thinking is correct, but so far it seems to work for me.
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