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Old 10-06-2004, 01:30 PM
steveyz steveyz is offline
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Default Re: The Flop

I'd fold. Chances are this ends up getting capped or re-raised. You have 3 clean outs, and even if you hit them, there's a lot of redraws. I'd need more than 8:1 (assuming it's capped) to call.
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: PP 15/30: ATo on Button

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I think the first raise is fine. I would fold to the cap, though.

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how much credit are you giving mp2 and mp3 for having a real hand given this betting sequence? if it had been 3 bet by a blind and then capped by utg then your almost certainly in big trouble. as it is though, i would expect the overlimp/reraise from middle position is gonna be either crap or a decent multiway hand a fair amount of the time.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: PP 15/30: ATo on Button

You have 2 limp reraisers in this hand. One of them is probably entirely full of crap or having fun with 87s, but one of them probably has KK or AA here. The odds of neither holding a huge hand seems pretty low.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: The Flop

Get the mouse over the call button, close your eyes, click, and pray for a Jack.

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Old 10-06-2004, 02:25 PM
Levi King Levi King is offline
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Default The Turn & River

Turn: (18.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (30.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero ???
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: The Turn & River

Jeez, Bet and call a raise?
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Old 10-06-2004, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: PP 15/30: ATo on Button

i don't like the original raise, but however, i think calling 2 cold back is fine.

Kenny
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Old 10-06-2004, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: The Flop

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I call and hope it doesn't get re-raised. When it does, I call again.

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i am with Diablo here.
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Old 10-06-2004, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: The Turn & River

i am guessing the flop action is that hero calls 2 cold and then MP2 3bets, and MP3 just calls, and hero just calls.

if that's the case, then i would bet. call a raise but not a reraise.

Kenny
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Old 10-06-2004, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: PP 15/30: ATo on Button

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I think the first raise is fine. I would fold to the cap, though.

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how much credit are you giving mp2 and mp3 for having a real hand given this betting sequence? if it had been 3 bet by a blind and then capped by utg then your almost certainly in big trouble. as it is though, i would expect the overlimp/reraise from middle position is gonna be either crap or a decent multiway hand a fair amount of the time.

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i agree with you, that's why i like the cold call btf.

but seriously, why raise with ATo on the button after a bunch of limpers? can we be so sure that ATo is a good favorite btf? maybe i say this just because i constantly limp with big hands (like AJo [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]) myself...
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