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Old 10-06-2004, 02:16 PM
Paluka Paluka is offline
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and when you miss the flop you have no choice but to keep up the agression having no idea what's behind you.

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You have no choice? How so? I would have no problem checking this flop if I missed.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 interesting hand

OK, I'm officially lost. So you're going to raise PF from the BB, indicating you have a top flight hand, and then check/call the flop if you miss, letting go of a good opportunity to take the pot down right there. Since you're going to miss the Flop alot, why did you raise preflop?
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:28 PM
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OK, I'm officially lost. So you're going to raise PF from the BB, indicating you have a top flight hand, and then check/call the flop if you miss, letting go of a good opportunity to take the pot down right there. Since you're going to miss the Flop alot, why did you raise preflop?

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You think I'm going to take the pot down for one bet against 5 opponents?
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 interesting hand

raise preflop=good
flop bet=good
turn bet=is a must
river bet(you can get people to fold a weak pair often), fold to a raise
right?
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:31 PM
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On a much less coordinated flop, sure. It's happened.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 interesting hand

I've been folding AJs UTG and UTG +1

folding AJs that early is definitely giving up money. i don't fold AJo utg but i wouldn't really criticize somebody for doing it.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 interesting hand

I like the check on the turn, because it allows you alot of options. You'd be happy to have them check it through, but if one limper bets and the other folds you can get in a checkraise here. I like a checkraise here and then bet out the river to try and get this guy to drop if he has a nine or AQ.

True your line costs you two bets, where as the one I'm suggesting costs you three and maybe even four if he reraises the turn. But your line is unlikely to get someone with a better hand to let it go.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 interesting hand

If you put one of the limpers on a pair, you don't have a hand to protect so checking the turn is not terrible, but when it goes bet, fold behind you, against most opponents I would raise.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 interesting hand

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I've been folding AJs UTG and UTG +1

folding AJs that early is definitely giving up money. i don't fold AJo utg but i wouldn't really criticize somebody for doing it.

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agreed. I play A9s UTG.
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Old 10-06-2004, 04:04 PM
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Me too and my VPIP is 11 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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