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#2
10-05-2004, 10:37 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem of Poker
my 2 cents..
No, there is no proof. But consider the situation where God comes and plays on your table. In his omniscient state, He will know everyone's hands. With this, we can assume that He will always 1) muck when behind and without odds to draw (he could also tell when there would be a raise behind him), or 2) always fold when drawing dead or without odds, or 3) put more money in the pot when he's ahead. This would enable him to ALWAYS play the most efficient and profitable poker possible. 
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#3
10-06-2004, 12:59 AM
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Uhh
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my 2 cents.. No, there is no proof. But consider the situation where God comes and plays on your table. In his omniscient state, He will know everyone's hands. With this, we can assume that He will always 1) muck when behind and without odds to draw (he could also tell when there would be a raise behind him), or 2) always fold when drawing dead or without odds, or 3) put more money in the pot when he's ahead. This would enable him to ALWAYS play the most efficient and profitable poker possible. [/ QUOTE ] What you described isn't the most efficient and profitable poker possible. You left out that God would already know what the flop, turn, and river was ahead of time. Thus, if playing him, expect to get rivered quite a bit. Example, "I raised preflop with AA, God capped it w/72 offsuit. Flop comes A75 and I bet. We both cap it. Turn and river are 2's. Aghhh!"
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#4
10-06-2004, 01:21 AM
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Re: Uhh
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[ QUOTE ] my 2 cents.. No, there is no proof. But consider the situation where God comes and plays on your table. In his omniscient state, He will know everyone's hands. With this, we can assume that He will always 1) muck when behind and without odds to draw (he could also tell when there would be a raise behind him), or 2) always fold when drawing dead or without odds, or 3) put more money in the pot when he's ahead. This would enable him to ALWAYS play the most efficient and profitable poker possible. [/ QUOTE ] What you described isn't the most efficient and profitable poker possible. You left out that God would already know what the flop, turn, and river was ahead of time. Thus, if playing him, expect to get rivered quite a bit. Example, "I raised preflop with AA, God capped it w/72 offsuit. Flop comes A75 and I bet. We both cap it. Turn and river are 2's. Aghhh!" [/ QUOTE ] Then you'd spite god for your aces full beating his twos full.
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#5
10-06-2004, 01:23 AM
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Re: Uhh
I was thinking the same thing^
However, the Fundamental Theorum of Poker states that whenever you play the way you would when you are able to see all of you cards, then you gain. It does not mention any such thing about predicting/knowing the next cards, or community cards, to come.
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#6
10-06-2004, 12:16 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem of Poker
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my 2 cents.. No, there is no proof. But consider the situation where God comes and plays on your table. In his omniscient state, He will know everyone's hands. With this, we can assume that He will always 1) muck when behind and without odds to draw (he could also tell when there would be a raise behind him), or 2) always fold when drawing dead or without odds, or 3) put more money in the pot when he's ahead. This would enable him to ALWAYS play the most efficient and profitable poker possible. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, after an hour or two, God wouldn't be playing very profitable poker, because everytime he played a hand everyone else would fold. How's he going to make money this way? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#7
10-06-2004, 12:29 PM
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Mea culpa (NT)
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#8
10-06-2004, 01:04 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem of Poker
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] my 2 cents.. No, there is no proof. But consider the situation where God comes and plays on your table. In his omniscient state, He will know everyone's hands. With this, we can assume that He will always 1) muck when behind and without odds to draw (he could also tell when there would be a raise behind him), or 2) always fold when drawing dead or without odds, or 3) put more money in the pot when he's ahead. This would enable him to ALWAYS play the most efficient and profitable poker possible. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, after an hour or two, God wouldn't be playing very profitable poker, because everytime he played a hand everyone else would fold. How's he going to make money this way? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] How many hands would it take? At what point would a good player stop thinking "This guy's making all these -EV plays, and keeps sucking out, sooner or later I'm going to have all his money I just have to wait for his streak to end." Would he go broke waiting for the streak to end? He should, shouldn't he? Because he'll be making beaucoup Sklansky dollars while he goes broke. Unless the halo, robes & long white beard tip him off.
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#9
10-06-2004, 01:31 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem of Poker
Nah, people wouldn't catch on. How's that saying go? God moves his chips in mysterious ways?
Or does that refer to chip tricks?
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#10
10-06-2004, 02:36 PM
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Re: Uhh
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Then you'd spite god for your aces full beating his twos full. [/ QUOTE ] I think you just accidentally proved that God doesn't exist. Quick! Someone call David Sklansky! /mc
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