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Moving up to party 100
What changes need to be made to move up from the 50 game to the 100 game? I have been making a pretty solid $10-13/hr/table 3-4 tabling at the 50 game, but whenever I try the 100 I always seem to lose, and lose a pretty fair amount. In the 50, I am very aggressive and that works wonders. Do I need to nut-peddle and trick people into staying into hands (instead of just betting out when I hit)? This seems counterintuitive but it's the best answer I can come up with so far. Btw, I'm talking about the 10max game.
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Re: Moving up to party 100
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$10-13/hr/table 3-4 tabling at the 50 game [/ QUOTE ] You are either making this number up or you don't have that many hands under your belt. If you were really making 17-22BB/100 (this # would be different if you were playing 6max though? it would be nice if you indicated that as well) you wouldn't need anyones help or you wouldn't have as much trouble as you say you have at the $100 |
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Re: Moving up to party 100
The number is real, and there are a couple explanations for it. I only play 3 tables as I said before, so I can get profit out of all my marginal hands from the extremely passive players. Players will take shots at pots where they have no chance at holding the cards they are representing and proceed to fold to a raise. Second barrel bluffs works so often there that it is absurd. And about 6max, that number does not include it. I am quite unsuccessful in 6max.
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Re: Moving up to party 100
Sponger,
You are making roughly ~7/100 on pt, correct? PT multiplies the big blind to get big bets meaning you're making ~$14/100, no? Is it just impossible that anyone could be as good as your dominance [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ? Correct me if I am wrong here, just a little confused. BTW: Do you know the conotations of your name to surfers? |
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Re: Moving up to party 100
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Sponger, You are making roughly ~7/100 on pt, correct? PT multiplies the big blind to get big bets meaning you're making ~$14/100, no? Is it just impossible that anyone could be as good as your dominance [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Whenever I talk about my WR I use real BB/100 and not "PT BB/100" so I am making just the normal 8-9BB/100 Conventional wisdom says it is extremely hard to make over 15bb/100 for your true win rate unless you are playing in the lowest of low games. [ QUOTE ] BTW: Do you know the conotations of your name to surfers? [/ QUOTE ] I'm a bodyboarder, so yes, I do know that, it was the point. |
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Re: Moving up to party 100
I thought of three questions that would help me play.
A. What is a general guideline for preflop play? -Raise AK, AA, KK, QQ, adding in JJ TT and AQ in late positions -Call raises with AK, pocket pairs if you think you will get paid off -limp with Axs or suited connectors in late position behind a good number of limpers That's what I've got right now. B. How should one select tables? C. When is it correct not to bet the full pot? Should one always bet 2/3 or 3/4 pot instead? |
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Re: Moving up to party 100
Really? I always thought the typical rate of a good player was 8-10 BB/100, with BB being two times the big blind. If that's not the case, then I'm averaging about 14 big blinds/100 over 30k hands. This has been over several different limits, but I thought I was still aspiring to reach something higher. I think 17-19 big blinds/100 is certainly attainable for me (if I could just drop my damn TPTK to a turned min-checraise) in the long run. Sponger, I expect yours will be much higher in the long run as well.
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Re: Moving up to party 100
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[ QUOTE ] $10-13/hr/table 3-4 tabling at the 50 game [/ QUOTE ] You are either making this number up or you don't have that many hands under your belt. If you were really making 17-22BB/100 (this # would be different if you were playing 6max though? it would be nice if you indicated that as well) you wouldn't need anyones help or you wouldn't have as much trouble as you say you have at the $100 [/ QUOTE ] $12/hr/table would be 6BB/100 as Pokertracker defines it, which is very doable imho. |
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Re: Moving up to party 100
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$12/hr/table would be 6BB/100 as Pokertracker defines it, which is very doable imho. [/ QUOTE ] You don't play 100 hands an hour, $12/hr and 6bb/100 are two different things. |
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Re: Moving up to party 100
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[ QUOTE ] $12/hr/table would be 6BB/100 as Pokertracker defines it, which is very doable imho. [/ QUOTE ] You don't play 100 hands an hour, $12/hr and 6bb/100 are two different things. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. I play shorthanded so I'm getting around 100 hands/hr but he was full ring i think. |
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