The no limit cash game at Greektown Casino in Detroit

[JJNJustin]

This game is so incredibly soft and profitable that I am surprised more professional players havent taken up temporary residence in the area just to get a piece of the action. You would think this type of game would be full of rocks, but it is an ocean full of fat whales. People are bringing thousands of dollars in attempts to have the largest stacks on the table and are losing their entire stacks and being totally outplayed by the handful of good players here. If you dont believe me, here are some examples of the bad plays I've seen (and I've only played the game a few times)

Player A raises to $50 (he has a $1000 stack). Player B makes it $500 to go (he also has a $1000 stack). Player A, after some deliberation, calls the bet. The flop comes 10, 3, 2, two spades. Player A checks. Player B goes all in for the rest of his money. Player A folds. ??? What hand could player A possibly have that he would put 1/2 a large stack into the pot but would not call a bet on the flop, nor go all in before the flop? A-K????

Player A raises under the gun to $25 with pocket kings. Player B calls the $25 with 10 Q of spades. Player C raises to $150 with pocket JJs. Player A goes all in for a total of $500. Player B IMMEDIATELY CALLS and puts himself all-in. After some hesitation, player C also calls. Needless to say, player C made three jacks, but the jack on the board filled Player B's straight, and he took the pot. If you cant see why calling all-in with 10 Q spades for $500 with no further betting is a bad play, then perhaps I've seen you down at Greektown.

Player A has turned the nut straight, but Player B who has been leading the bet with what is either a diamond draw or a pair is faced with a tough call. Actually, it's a very easy decision. The pot contains $165, Player A, bets $700 and sets Player B all-in, should he decide to call. Player B, after some deliberation, calls, with a diamond draw, with one card to come. The diamond does not fall, and player A takes the $1500 pot.

Player A limps in with 10-6 offsuit, apparently trying to play this monster hand sly and coy. The flop comes 10-6-4, rainbow, with one diamond. Player A bets $35 into the $50 pot and gets one caller, player B, who holds the 5-7 diamonds in his hand. The turn card comes an 3 of dimaond, giving player B the nut straight with a diamond draw to the river. Player B bets out $200 and is raised by player A to $250. I interject that he cannot raise this small ($50) amount but the dealer allows the raise. This allows Player B to reraise another $200, which player A, with two pair 10's and 6's calls. The river comes a blank and player B sets Player A all-in with the rest of his money $400. Player A calls $400 and loses the pot with his two pair, wondering how he just lost $1000 on such a monster hand 10-6.

A player holding a diamond draw was forced to call all-in for $500 going to the last card was asked why he chose to call, given the fact that there would be no future betting and the pot odds were not there. He replied "I knew it was coming."

Player A flops a pair of aces, turns two pair, is in the lead betting a hundred dollars apiece on the flop and turn. The river falls a 3, which makes the board a 4-card wheel. The chaser, now apparently making a gut-shot, bets all in for $700, which the player with aces up calls, claiming "I didnt think he would call those $100 bets with just a gut-shot."

After some players have come in the pot for $15, player A, on the big blind pushes all-in for $300, into a $45 pot. Player B calls this raise. Player A holds KK, while player B holds 10-10.

And finally, player A holds JJ's and raises a $50 pot to $150. Player B, with AA's, reraises to $450. Player A then reraises to $1500, to which player B announces "I'm all-in" for $6000. Player A calls the reraise all-in, and loses his entire stack with JJ's.

So come down to Greektown Casino in Detroit where ,"The Party Never Ends". I suspect it may end soon, after all these whales have been heavily harpooned.

-J

[rainman3000]

Dude, don't ruin our D-town secret........ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You hit it right on the head though. I have made quite a bit of money in the no limit game and hope to continue.

So many times I sit down at the table with $500 and have three or four people with huge stacks thinking they will get my money in no time and then 3 or 4 hours later they are wondering what I did to be stacking so many racks and how they had such "bad" luck.

[collegeplayer1]

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This game is so incredibly soft and profitable that I am surprised more professional players havent taken up temporary residence in the area just to get a piece of the action. You would think this type of game would be full of rocks, but it is an ocean full of fat whales. People are bringing thousands of dollars in attempts to have the largest stacks on the table and are losing their entire stacks and being totally outplayed by the handful of good players here. If you dont believe me, here are some examples of the bad plays I've seen (and I've only played the game a few times)

Player A raises to $50 (he has a $1000 stack). Player B makes it $500 to go (he also has a $1000 stack). Player A, after some deliberation, calls the bet. The flop comes 10, 3, 2, two spades. Player A checks. Player B goes all in for the rest of his money. Player A folds. ??? What hand could player A possibly have that he would put 1/2 a large stack into the pot but would not call a bet on the flop, nor go all in before the flop? A-K????

Player A raises under the gun to $25 with pocket kings. Player B calls the $25 with 10 Q of spades. Player C raises to $150 with pocket JJs. Player A goes all in for a total of $500. Player B IMMEDIATELY CALLS and puts himself all-in. After some hesitation, player C also calls. Needless to say, player C made three jacks, but the jack on the board filled Player B's straight, and he took the pot. If you cant see why calling all-in with 10 Q spades for $500 with no further betting is a bad play, then perhaps I've seen you down at Greektown.

Player A has turned the nut straight, but Player B who has been leading the bet with what is either a diamond draw or a pair is faced with a tough call. Actually, it's a very easy decision. The pot contains $165, Player A, bets $700 and sets Player B all-in, should he decide to call. Player B, after some deliberation, calls, with a diamond draw, with one card to come. The diamond does not fall, and player A takes the $1500 pot.

Player A limps in with 10-6 offsuit, apparently trying to play this monster hand sly and coy. The flop comes 10-6-4, rainbow, with one diamond. Player A bets $35 into the $50 pot and gets one caller, player B, who holds the 5-7 diamonds in his hand. The turn card comes an 3 of dimaond, giving player B the nut straight with a diamond draw to the river. Player B bets out $200 and is raised by player A to $250. I interject that he cannot raise this small ($50) amount but the dealer allows the raise. This allows Player B to reraise another $200, which player A, with two pair 10's and 6's calls. The river comes a blank and player B sets Player A all-in with the rest of his money $400. Player A calls $400 and loses the pot with his two pair, wondering how he just lost $1000 on such a monster hand 10-6.

A player holding a diamond draw was forced to call all-in for $500 going to the last card was asked why he chose to call, given the fact that there would be no future betting and the pot odds were not there. He replied "I knew it was coming."

Player A flops a pair of aces, turns two pair, is in the lead betting a hundred dollars apiece on the flop and turn. The river falls a 3, which makes the board a 4-card wheel. The chaser, now apparently making a gut-shot, bets all in for $700, which the player with aces up calls, claiming "I didnt think he would call those $100 bets with just a gut-shot."

After some players have come in the pot for $15, player A, on the big blind pushes all-in for $300, into a $45 pot. Player B calls this raise. Player A holds KK, while player B holds 10-10.

And finally, player A holds JJ's and raises a $50 pot to $150. Player B, with AA's, reraises to $450. Player A then reraises to $1500, to which player B announces "I'm all-in" for $6000. Player A calls the reraise all-in, and loses his entire stack with JJ's.

So come down to Greektown Casino in Detroit where ,"The Party Never Ends". I suspect it may end soon, after all these whales have been heavily harpooned.

-J

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how old to play in this game? 21 or 18?

[rainman3000]

21

[Relentless]

I was watching it a little yesterday but didn't sit down, don't have the bankroll for that yet.

[Loci]

I paid for this year's college from greektown. Be patient and play tight and you'll be given plenty of all in calls with 95% edges. Motor City is far looser, however. It's generally all drug dealers who don't want to go to greektown because it's across from the police station. throwing in 5000 grand with a pair of two's means nothing to them, so if you can handle the swings of them outdrawing you, then I highly recommend.