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Old 09-25-2004, 11:20 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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PokerRoom 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero completes, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

I play kx about 1 out of 5 times from sb, still not sure if i like this.
Flop: (11 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

all clubs.. I bet since check raise isn't going to accomplish anything and checking is weak?

Turn: (7 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

use same logic as before?

River: (10 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds.

Just check? only better hand will call? Though i think i might get a bet out of these guys sometime anyways.
Final Pot: 11 BB
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Old 09-26-2004, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

I play it the same.
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Old 09-26-2004, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

I'd only play K7o if the whole table limped.

Postflop is good though.
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Old 09-26-2004, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

Other than not playing it in the first place, I play it the same.
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Old 09-26-2004, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

K-garbage is not a complete from the SB, ever.
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Old 09-26-2004, 02:33 AM
Cerril Cerril is offline
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

I wouldn't complete with K7o, or even A7o. And I'd definitely fold to the BB raise since I'm only in for a half bet.

Once you hit the flop you're fine. You're beaten by a flush or a six (or TJ but you're not up against that), a better two pair or a set. That leaves a whole lot of pairs that will call you (any king, 9, or 8 might spin the wheel with the PFRaiser out).

If BB was the sort of person to always open bet if he PFRaises I might checkraise (flushes are going to the river with you), or even check with the intent to fold to two bets cold to me. However, if he's passive then you don't want to lose a bet here.
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Old 09-26-2004, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

fold pf, otherwise looks good.
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Old 09-26-2004, 11:44 AM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

I can usually resist playing stuff like this from the sb, guess I'll have no problem throwing it away now after these responses.
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Old 09-26-2004, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

I wouldn't complete with K7o, or even A7o. And I'd definitely fold to the BB raise since I'm only in for a half bet.

I don't understand what you mean by this statement. You are getting the exact same odds to call the bb raise as you would by completing. Isn't that what matters here?

I defintely think this complete is awful, but the call of the bb raise should be correct if the sb complete is.
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Old 09-26-2004, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: keep betting from bb?

I think the preflop call is okay. It's probably about the worst hand I would complete with. You have a shot at what will often be top pair with a halfway decent kicker for 11:1.

Also, I would just say that I complete with A7o in a spot like this every time. This one I don't think is debateable like K7o is. A7o gives you a shot at what will always be top pair with a halfway decent kicker. I will often complete with as low as A4o. I really don't think these plays are too loose. My VPIPSB over 26k hands is 32.39. If you play well postflop, I think you want to take flops with some marginal hands when you can get in cheap. You just have to be able to get away from them if it looks like you're beat.
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