AJ against EP raiser

sfbruin · #1 09-23-2004, 01:34 PM

UTG+1 is typical PP player. Button is a super LAG. How did I play?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, Button calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (14.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB

All-In · #2 09-23-2004, 01:36 PM

I don't know what a typical PP player is but I would usually fold this pre-flop.

Sadat X · #3 09-23-2004, 01:37 PM

Fold preflop against a typical player - failing that, 3-bet. Calling is not an option here. Fine otherwise.

bdk3clash · #4 09-23-2004, 01:37 PM

Blecch. Fold preflop.

Flop I play the same. Once it's 3-bet, I'm calling and planning on folding the turn unimproved.

You picked up a gutshot, so your call was good. I'd call the river, too, based on the pot size, but I expect to lose.

I hate the preflop coldcall with AJo.

Lost Wages · #5 09-23-2004, 01:38 PM

You should be routinely folding AJo and even AQo against a typical EP raiser. Against a player who would raise a wide range of hands from EP, you should reraise with AQ. I can't think of a time that flat calling would ever be correct with either hand.

Lost Wages

easypete · #6 09-23-2004, 01:39 PM

Fold pf...

Since you didn't, rest looks fine, but you're probably beat.

bdk3clash · #7 09-23-2004, 01:45 PM

Let's say the turn is a blank, like the 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I'm folding to a turn bet from UTG+1. Thoughts?

Bob T. · #8 09-23-2004, 02:09 PM

UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls,

Am I allowed to stop reading here, and say that I would fold.

I think you got yourself trapped here, and it got worse and worse. You might have been drawing to running jacks or a running straight after the flop. Or worse if your opponent flopped a set.

Your only real chance is that he had AT, and played this way, and I don't think that that is enough of a chance to want to get involved here.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.

Bob T. · #9 09-23-2004, 02:11 PM

Let's say the turn is a blank, like the 5. I'm folding to a turn bet from UTG+1. Thoughts?

At best, he is probably drawing to three outs, so the fold is probably correct. But it would have been easier to fold preflop.

justin · #10 09-23-2004, 04:41 PM

heres your first mistake you cant call that for a riase preflop. But as for how you played it you have to make a choice you can either try to call down the ace and hope you win or raise the flop like you did. Now him 3 betting you with two callers in between probably indicates that hes got ak if nto a set of kk or soemthing to that extent. So id probably give it up on turn probbaly on the flop in knowledge that im drawing dead