Importing Hand Histories You Are Not Involved In

[fyodor]

Now that PartyPoker is loading the hand history files directly on your hard drive you can with PokerTraker import game files of tables you are observing but not seated at.

When I am busy at work or sleeping or whatever I open 4 tables of the limit I normally play and auto-import everything. You can amass a lot of data on a lot of opponents in a very short time. Then just export all the notes and be better armed next time out.

Some people think this is unethical. What do you think and will you be using the feature?

[jasonHoldEm]

This is just one of the ways that internet poker is different from real life poker. It's perfectly ethical.

Data mining of hands you're not playing has been going on for a LONG time. Anyone with any semblance of programing skills and common sense has had a data bot running on their machine since the poker tracker notes exporter was released. The recent update by party and poker tracker has simply leveled the playing field a little (unfortunately [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] ).

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[Piers]

Making thoes hand histories avaliable is an internal Party marketing decision. Not clear why this would make the Party poker management unethical.

[Cubswin]

I thought Pat said you cant import hands you were not in? Im confused

[Lori]

How many does it store?

How would I go about removing them?

I'm not sure I'm keen on Party dumping stuff into my PC more often than is neccessary.

Lori

[Im Just A Bill]

They go into a hand history folder under the party poker installation folder. You can simply delete the files if you want to. Not sure if you can turn off the feature or not.

[Im Just A Bill]

How are you importing these files? I didn't think PT was supporting the format just yet.

In answer to your question, I personally have no problem with this from an ethical standpoint.

[skirtus]

I loaded the patch today. I can manually import these files with no problems. I cant get the auto-import to work without errors. Not sure how many hands a file holds. This is a great tool for us non-programming morons.

[fyodor]

The file Party puts on when you are observing gets erased as soon as you log off. You have to be importing while you are still connected.

Your own histories go into separate files sorted by date and table. You can set it up in your Party window how long you want these to remain on your hard drive and how much space they are allowed to take up. Check under Options/Hand History Logs Configuration

A PokerTraker database can contain up to about 100,000 hands. I use a separate database for hands I am not in. When it reaches about 100,000 I will start another one.

When you export notes you can combine databases.

I think it is an excellent tool and would be interested to hear reasons why anyone thinks it is a bad idea.

[Richard Berg]

Voted yes to both.

Should Party be doing this? Yes, because it levels the playing field against the people who were doing it anyway by more elaborate means.

Will I use it? Yes, but into a separate database that I won't use for getting reads/notes.