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Old 09-21-2004, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

raise the turn to protect against overcards
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

Raising the turn is important here, thats the best way to protect your hand here. I wouldn't even mind a raise on the flop though.

If you were really doing "gamb00l" you would be raising at every opportunity.
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Old 09-21-2004, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

MP1 had A2s.
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Old 09-21-2004, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

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I've seen some PP players cap preflop with K9o, but these kind of players are rare, even for party.

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But it's an auto-add to the buddy list. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Last night a player limp/capped with 87o. Of course, he did hit a straight to beat my AA so what do I know?

I agree with everyone else on this hand that you need to raise the turn. I would have raised the flop, too.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

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I agree with everyone else on this hand that you need to raise the turn. I would have raised the flop, too.

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Raising the flop probably doesn't give you the opportunity to raise the turn. That's why you wait till the turn (double bet size) on a hand like this (non-scary board).
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

You need to raise the turn.
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Old 09-21-2004, 11:35 AM
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What do you guys think about folding this preflop?

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Not with a limper and a cold-caller involved.
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Old 09-21-2004, 12:39 PM
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Gamble???? This is about as passively as you could've played here. MP1's reraise looks like an attempt to get head up with the almost all-in UTG+1.
The preflop cap is good. Raise the flop. If he calls then checks, bet the turn, if he calls then bets or 3 bets the flop call down. Obviously raise the river.

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The gamble part was the preflop cap. The later passivity was me seeing weak tight monsters under the bed. My basic thought process was, raise and a reraise, damn, overpair, but I don't want to fold these pretty pocket jacks, so I hit the cap button. Then I was thinking well, you made the pot huge, call down and see his AA-KK. Then I hit the jack, and the river raise is obvious. When MP1 complained in the chat after the showdown, I assumed I had been correct. Then I looked at the hand history, and remembered that this is .50/1 on party.
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Old 09-21-2004, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

If capping preflop with JJ in a 7-way pot is gambling, then I'm a hopeless addict. I'd cap here for value with a lot less.

Oh, as many others have said, you need to raise the turn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 09-21-2004, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Sometimes it pays to gamb00l

Shouldn't Hero just be calling PF here? He wants to encourage the blinds to stay around and see if the original raiser caps. SSH lists JJ in this situation as 'play'.
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