KK vs open-raise all-in in the second orbit of tournament

[modernmess]

Friday night UB 5.50 1500 added tourny. 1600 players, nearly 10k prize pool.

15th hand and im dealt KK on the button. UTG+1 open raises all in for 1000 or so. Everyone folds to me. I have 930. No reads to go off of. Looks like he could be getting tricky w/ AA, but then again a lot of the people in these tournaments in the beginning could do this with garbage. Fold or call?

[fnord_too]

Call. I know you cannot reason "If he had aces he would play them slower" and be correct all the time, but chances are your hand is good. Without an incredible read I never lay down here.

[Tosh]

Call, its not close.

[betgo]

If it was being normally raised and reraised and someone goes allin with very deep money early in the tournament, in some cases you could fold KK, but probably only in a high buyin tournament. In a similar situation, you might fold it in a deep money cash game.

When someone open raises allin, you don't want to gamble with them by calling with something like AJo. However, their credibility is a lot lower than if it was raised and reraised before the allin.

I would generally call with AA, KK, QQ, AK, and AQs. If you know the reputation of the raiser and what hands he pulls this stunt with, it will effect what you call with. Also, your requirements are probably looser in a rebuy or lower buyin tournament.

[Che]

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I would generally call with AA, KK, QQ, AK, and AQs.

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With no read, I agree with this range completely. Against many players I add JJ and even TT (sometimes).

Later,
Che

[smartalecc5]

I call 100% of the time.

[jimotto]

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I would generally call with AA, KK, QQ, AK, and AQs.

With no read, I agree with this range completely. Against many players I add JJ and even TT (sometimes).

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Interesting. I'm thinking I'd make the call with KK and favor AK over QQ, though I'm leaning towards folding both (jaded by doing it earlier this week with qq). Very weak, I guess.

[Roman]

very...

I call here with JJ-AA and AK-AQ. Sometimes if he was dumb before I add TT and occasionally 99 (cutting it close I think).

[renodoc]

I'd call. I think Sklansky covers getting reraised all-in in the THFAP book. Something about the villian holding AA....

[davidross]

SO then what do you think of going all-in with AA hoping to catch someone who doesn't believe you?