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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
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I might have re-reraised preflop. If I flat call, I don't know where I stand. If I re-raise, though, it creates a whole new set of problems. A smart player with aces would probably flat call your reraise, so as to give you a chance to bluff at him. If no paint hits the board, he can be pretty sure that his hand is good. It's hard to say without knowing the player on the button. Some players might just go ahead and push with aces, figuring that if you had enough to reraise with, then you'd have enough to call all in. Is this the type of player that will only reraise you with aces or kings? In that case, you are probably going to want to lay down your hand on the flop to any bet. The fact that you are out of position means that if you bet and get raised then you are going to be really unhappy calling the raise and if the player is suitably aggressive, then you are looking at calling big bets on the turn and river. If I decide to check the flop, I'm looking to check-raise, since I think flat calling is very dangerous if he reraised you with AK... [/ QUOTE ] So you might reraise but that won't tell you anything, instead you might be throwing away 200 bucks if he's slowplaying aces? If button is the type of player that will only reraise with aces or kings, and ZJ knows this, why would he be asking the question? I hope it's obvious to everyone and their mother they should lay it down after that flop against this type. |
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
Well, he's not really slowplaying them by making a pot-sized raise over the top of the original raise. I would be throwing away more than 200 by calling bets after the flop, so I figure that I might give myself a chance to save some money by making a raise. If I'm pot committed by reraising, obviously it doesn't make sense to reraise. If the money is deep enough, though, you can give away a little money to prevent going broke.
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
if you dont reraise preflop you are putting him on aa or kk and playing for a set. in this case isnt this a fold preflop.
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
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5/10 NL on UB You open raise QQ in MP (2 off the button). The button reraises you the pot. Everyone folds. You call. Flop 993, 2 clubs. You check. He bets the pot. You both started the hand with about 100x BB. What's your plan of action from here on out? Is it wrong to check this flop? [/ QUOTE ] Seems very player dependent. How likely is it that he has AA/KK vs. what else could he make this play with (JJ, AK)? You probably have odds to flop a set, but are probably even money at best, so I like flat calling to see the flop. I probably check-fold if A/K hits, and do whatever will get AK/JJ to commit without A/k, which probly means check-calling. But I have no idea if this is correct, just my 2 cents --Greg |
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
He has position and the momentum, therefor he wins the pot. check-fold.
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
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well, why isn't calling an option? if you bet 30, he raises to 100 you call. then a flop bet of 200 (i just wrote the bet sizes down to show that you're not really pot comitted if you call. the bets are still not huge.), [/ QUOTE ] calling is certainly an option with position on your opponent. calling out of position and checking the turn is going to leave you in a spot where you will not win the pot enough times to make the call profitable. |
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
I was at the table for this hand. (revetseb) Don't remember exact details, but I believe u both got all in after the flop. He then turned over AA to your QQ. This was just one of those spots where it is hard either way. Probably should have laid it down when u didnt hit the set, but i can't/don't fault you too much for the call.
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
if youre just going to play this hand for set value, then shouldnt you fold this preflop? only if you sure you will get 8:1 on your initial pf investment is a call worth making.
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
I think you should come out firing a pot sized bot on that flop. If he raises you all-in, then there is a very good chance your beat. If he flat calls then he may have JJ,1010, or AK. Come out aggressive when you get a favorable flop.
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Re: Common scenario that I don\'t know how to deal with.
no way you can put him on that range of hands if he flatcalls. the best way to play this hand is to reraise him back preflop and go from there. or possibly fold preflop.
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