Choice?

[SpearsBritney]

Do we really have are own free will, or are our 'choices' just illusions determined by pre-existing circumstances.

[stabn]

Get a new name,

stabn

[Alobar]

gotta love philisophical questions that cant be answered


My vote is "both". Its all predetirmed, but I still decided what I wanted when it was time to decide, so it appears like free will to me, which is exactly the same thing.

[SpearsBritney]

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gotta love philisophical questions that cant be answered


My vote is "both". Its all predetirmed, but I still decided what I wanted when it was time to decide, so it appears like free will to me, which is exactly the same thing.

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But is your 'choice' to choose 'free will' not determined by every single moment that led up to your 'choosing'. I understand your argument for both, but am surprised that given only the two 'choices', you leaned towards free will.

[Alobar]

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But is your 'choice' to choose 'free will' not determined by every single moment that led up to your 'choosing'.

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No

[SpearsBritney]

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But is your 'choice' to choose 'free will' not determined by every single moment that led up to your 'choosing'.

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No

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Than you're saying your 'decision' was random?

[SpearsBritney]

Why you chose free will:
1. You are convinced that you have it.
2. You were posed a question in an internet forum.

Why you're convinced that you have it:
After considering both possibilities, this seems to be the logical answer.

Why this seems to be the logical answer:
This is what you have come to believe through experience.

Why you were posed a question in an internet forum:
Bescause SpearsBritney has nothing better to do with his time than post over-debated philisophical questions.

Why SpearsBritney has nothing better to do with his time than post over-debated philisophical questions:
Because...you fill in the blank [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[SpearsBritney]

Are you suggesting that my name lacks any sort of credibility or that I'm just a loser?

[private joker]

The problem with free will (though I believe in it) is reconciling it with the societal compulsion to agree on a universal morality.

My B.A. in Philosophy is worth about 75 cents on a good day.

Read Sartre, particularly "Existentialism Is a Humanism," for more on this topic. Also Kant. But Kant was a jackass.

[bholdr]

Kant's position on free will, the nomenal vs phenomenal duality, with real choice only appearing in the unobservable nomunal 'real' world was little more than a clever peice of wordplay used to evade the logical conclusions that follow from his work on the limits of reason.