A comment on posting

[Subfallen]

Oh, ok, I see your point.

[ClaytonN]

I dont think it's just to ask people to spend an inordinate amount of type on each post.

Rather, stop posting 5 word answers that are dribble. In 2+2 land you are allowed to post <5 word answers if you've established yourself as a worthy player and poster over a long period of time.

[NLSoldier]

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i spent a lot of thinking about this and i think you should bet the river


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what a surpise that you picked one of barons posts. the reason he didnt elaborate is because we talked extensively about it on aim before he posted. and there was no need to rehash everything we had just talked about because I already knew all his reasoning. he was just posting his opinion for the sake of the rest of the forum.

[ClaytonN]

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This kind of stuff hurts n00bs too. They see a short post from somebody who has a lot of posts (because they post like this) and assume that the answer to their question is obvious. Half the time these answers aren't even right.

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If the noobs can't tell the difference, [censored] them. Seriously. Those who cannot discern between the good posters and the bad are kool-aid drinking sheep that should quit poker immediately :P

[Moozh]

The catch is that a lot of these one liner posts are redundant anyway. It doesn't add much to quote someone else verbatim except to show that you agree. That's somewhat reasonable, but not entirely constructive.

I think the one place a short answer is good is when responding to someone posting a very basic situation. If all they want is confirmation, then go ahead and give it to them and move on.

What I really don't like is when people disagree with a move but don't elaborate. If you disagree, there's a reason for it. If there's a reason, it can be typed on simplisticly in a single sentence. If people have more time, an explanation of that reasoning would be very nice to hear.

[jason_t]

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i spent a lot of thinking about this and i think you should bet the river


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what a surpise that you picked one of barons posts. the reason he didnt elaborate is because we talked extensively about it on aim before he posted. and there was no need to rehash everything we had just talked about because I already knew all his reasoning. he was just posting his opinion for the sake of the rest of the forum.

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Neither you nor him should take offense at this. I left his name out of my OP so it would not look like I am picking on him. I didn't reply to him in the thread and antagonize him. I was trying to give specific examples so it would be clear what I mean. I gave two examples so it wouldn't look like I was picking on a particular person. I tried to be careful in my post and I made it thinking it might benefit the forum, not to pick on people. I tried to be professional, not critical.

I value his input in that hand, especially if he has spent extensive time thinking about it. I would value it more if he shared what he was thinking about it.

[NLSoldier]

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i spent a lot of thinking about this and i think you should bet the river


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what a surpise that you picked one of barons posts. the reason he didnt elaborate is because we talked extensively about it on aim before he posted. and there was no need to rehash everything we had just talked about because I already knew all his reasoning. he was just posting his opinion for the sake of the rest of the forum.

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Neither you nor him should take offense at this. I left his name out of my OP so it would not look like I am picking on him. I didn't reply to him in the thread and antagonize him. I was trying to give specific examples so it would be clear what I mean. I think this is for the benefit of the forum.

I value his input in that hand, especially if he has spent extensive time thinking about it. I would value it more if he shared what he was thinking about it.

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he had already shared it with me, and since I was the OP, I dont see why he should feel responsible for typing it all out again. at some point people are allowed to post their opinion without much to back it up, (you see guys like diablo do it all the time). their advice is there if you want to listen, if not then go ahead and ignore it, but dont expect everyone to be writing novels in every post. I agree that its stupid when people with 40 posts give one liners, but I just ignore them and Im assuming everyone else does the same. If someone who has proven to be a good player and thinker in the past wants to give a one liner based on reputation alone, I dont see any problem with that. Also, in most hands, the reasoning is pretty obvious. For example in the hand I posted it basically comes down to how wide of range you think the guy can have. Obviously Baron thought that range was wide enough that he didnt have a flush often enough to make a bet profitable. What else is there to really say?

[jason_t]

I'm not looking for novels in reply to every post. If that's what you read out of my post, I didn't make myself clear. A lot of decisions are obvious and elaboration is not necessary. However, I don't think the spot that you posted is obvious.

It's not about "responsibility" or anything like that. There's frankly little value in a post that says "i spent a lot of [time] thinking about this and i think you should bet the river." What value does that have to you if you two already discussed it? What value does that have to baronzeus if he already spent extensive time articulating his thoughts to you? What value does that have to the forum?

[NLSoldier]

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I'm not looking for novels in reply to every post. If that's what you read out of my post, I didn't make myself clear. A lot of decisions are obvious and elaboration is not necessary. However, I don't think the spot that you posted is obvious.

It's not about "responsibility" or anything like that. There's frankly little value in a post that says "i spent a lot of [time] thinking about this and i think you should bet the river." What value does that have to you if you two already discussed it? What value does that have to baronzeus if he already spent extensive time articulating his thoughts to you? What value does that have to the forum?

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the value that it adds is the people who know and respect barons opinion will get to hear it. If schneids came in and posted nothing more than his opinion on what the correct play was in every thread in hush I would love it, wouldnt you?

[ArturiusX]

NLSoldier, in that specific example, all baron would needed to have posted was 'I think we'll see busted flush draws often enough to call'.

Simple. At least some kind of reasoning to start the discussion.