99 in the SB. Not happy with how I played it.

[Pil Sung Do]

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You have no read, so we have no clue what he could be holding



Well except that he raised UTG, called the 3-bet, and called the flop bet. Put him on hands we beat and hands we lose to?

What would you do instead?



Not to be a smart a$$, but can we really classify this as a read???



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What would you call it then?

[27offsooot]

Edit - Misread it was 7 handed. Anyway, I like calling better than 3-betting for reasons in later post.

[Piiop]

It's 7handed. Folding this preflop IS WAY WORSE THAN EITHER CALLING OR RERAISING.

[Pil Sung Do]

Normally here I'd just call preflop and check/raise a lot of flops.

I was wondering if that was a more standard line.

My thought process was that he had Ax (ten or higher), or PP T or higher. When he just called the three bet, I took away AA and KK. When the A came, I couldn't see a hand that he would play that I beat. I had only seen 20 or so hands from him and he did nothing to suggest that he was a loose raiser (hence no read).

[27offsooot]

Missed the 7 handed part. Was assuming full. I still don't like three betting at all.

[Piiop]

Why not?

[chief444]

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My thought process was that he had Ax (ten or higher), or PP T or higher.

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Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable range here and it puts you either way behind or much more often at about a coin flip. The coin flip though changes in one or the others favor heavily on the flop, which is why calling is probably much better here. Against the normal UTG range 99 really isn't much better than 22. It just looks better.

[chief444]

For reasons I just pointed out in the other post.

[brettbrettr]

The way you played it:

Bet fold the turn.

The way I think I'd have played it:

check-raise the flop and lead the turn, folding to a raise.

[27offsooot]

Even 7 handed, opening standards UTG are generally pretty high. This isn't a 6-max table and unless UTG adjusts his play to a smaller table drastically, I don't think that u're going to be shown many hands that u're in great shape against. You're OOP, u don't have a read at all on UTG, u're going to be betting into most flops and then have a very difficult time figuring out where u are. There is no dead money/ crappy limpers or cold-callers to push an equity edge. You can check to the PFraiser and then c/r, call, or fold and u essentially have de facto position on him on the flop b/c he will auto bet any flop.

The only reason i might 3-bet is b/c u have momentum and could possibly push UTG off a better hand on the flop, especially if scare cards come.

Edit- by great shape, i mean 88/77/A8s/A9s, ones which u have > 55% PF equity against.