Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP

[helpmeout]

Low pocket pairs suck against 2-3 players. I only raise this trash in CO if the blinds are tight. I want one caller or none. If you get 2 you lose money.

Made middle pair? This is a trash pair, if you dont hit the flop you dont know where you are at.

What are you going to do if you miss the flop and you get raised? Call down and get shown a bigger pair.

[EvanJC]

preflop: i dunno, i sometimes open limp with a hand like 66, although im sure nobody else does, so your play is probably fine. however, i do think you can fold to BB's cap, despite his laggishness w/CO raising in front of you.

flop: if i were still around at this point, i probably check/fold.

ps my advice is probably bad

[BradL]

If I am continuing with the flop I am raising the flop. If I get action behind me after that I dump the hand to a bet on the turn. If I get a coldcall from CO and the turn comes without and A or a K I lead the turn if checked to and fold to raise.

-Brad

[BradL]

I really really really hate the call on the flop, it is a clear raise or fold IMO. 66 may very well still be the best hand and you will have no idea without taking control of the hand with raise. I think a raise on the flop is crucial as without a raise hero is left guessing where he stands and either calling it down or folding what may be the best hand. Much better to raise the flop and bet the turn if checked to and the board does not contain AK or Q.

Edit: I am a 10/20 player however and only played 5/10 for a brief period. Many players will bet out overcards on a flop like this and that is why I raise. If the 5/10 game is significantly more passive then this may be the wrong play, but in 10/20 I would raise this flop all day (or until i was reraised) if my opponents are typical overaggro.

-Brad

[Dubra]

no set no bet

[wheelz]

No, I think I'm with you Brad. Not raising the flop is what cost me this pot. Folding the flop is also a good plan, and obviously calling, like I did, is the worst option of all. I wanted to raise, figuring I could be against overcards, but then I figured I had to probably be against at least one overpair... so I choked and just called.

I still don't know about this hand. There's been support for folding preflop, playing the same preflop, raising preflop but folding to the cap (I don't think this is a good idea), folding the flop, raising the flop, and calling the flop (I don't think this is a good idea either).

There's certainly no standard line in hands like these.

Edit: Some of the players involved in this hand play up to 20/40. There was more than standard 5/10 aggression going on at this table, which makes me lean towards raising the flop.

[BradL]

wrong strategy for 5handed in this situation imo.

-brad

[BradL]

Folding bc of being sandwhiched between aggressors is overvalued in SH play when both aggressors are aggressive by nature. What ends up happening is you become passive and they begin to play back at eachother. You become passive in the middle and reason that since you are there they should be respecting your calls, but you often become forgotten in the middle, and end up under representing your hand as they bluff/semibluff thier overcards back at eachother. I know that was not specifically what was going on after the flop in this hand but for example pretend the player last to act on the flop had raised after you called, while his raise could mean an overpair, it could just as easily be to see a cheap card on the turn since you simply called the flop bet, now if you raise the flop his reraise behind you could still be for a cheap card on the turn but it is decidedly less likely.

-Brad

-Brad