Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

All comments on this hand greatly appreciated.

All I have to say about this table is that it got pretty LAGtastic. BB is the biggest LAG of them all, while the CO has been playing pretty tightly.

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Hero is UTG with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero raises, CO 3-bets, </font> Button folds, SB calls, <font color="red"> BB caps,</font> all call

Flop (16 SB) 10 7 5r
SB checks, <font color="red"> BB bets, </font> Hero calls, <font color="red"> CO raises, </font> SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls

Turn (11 BB) J
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red"> CO thinks for a minute then bets, </font> BB calls, Hero folds

Where do you fold? Do you fold at all?

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

Fold pre-flop.

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

Fold on the flop. With that action from 3 different players, I'm playing to flop a set or fold. The likelihood of a higher pair is simply too high to invest bet after bet to see the showdown. And even if all they had were overcards, their combination of outs gives you the reverse implied odds necessary to dump it on the flop. You simply threw away 1 BB on the flop IMO.

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

I know, of course as soon as I called the flop I knew I was an idiot for doing it... but the BB's lagginess and the size of the pot suckered me into calling (this guy sporadically raises UTG at full tables with 84s or q3 off and calls it "bluffing".)

Ah well.

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

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Fold pre-flop.

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I usually fold 66 UTG, but it was only 5-handed and the other players were really weak, so I decided to play it.

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

I guess I just don't understand raising out of position with 66 here. What are you trying to accomplish with this? Maybe you are trying to get the tight player to fold. I'd rather he stay in when my only real hope is to flop a set.

If they were calling stations, I'd call pre-flop and try to flop a set cheaply. Since you say they are loose-aggressive, getting raised by one of the 4 players behind me is fairly likely. This would make me and my 66 quite sad, therefore I fold in this spot.

Am I missing something?

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

The CO and button hadn't played a hand in a while; they were pretty tight players. The SB was loose, but sensible, and didn't get out of line against me very often (we've played together a lot). The BB liked to play anything.

I was fully expecting my 66 to be the best hand, and have either blind defend with junk. I really wasn't anticipating a raise behind me, or multi-way action.

I guess my original post was misleading. The table hadn't been THAT crazy up to this point. Only the players in the SB and BB in this hand were the laggy ones, and even then they'd open with a lot of hands, but their 3-betting standards weren't that bad. After this hand though, things went haywire.

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

I think the first preflop raise is fine (based on table, etc), but I'd fold when it's 2 more bets back to me. Calling that flop bet is really bad, and you should have definitely folded there since you didn't fold preflop.

Freakin

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

Fold preflop, this is too weak to raise, especially on a laggy table.

Fold on the flop against that much action preflop and 2 overcards to your pair, only a backdoor straight and possible raises after you, you have to fold.

Re: Capped 4-ways, holding a small PP
 

Guys, leave the preflop alone. 66 is a fine openraise in CO+1 in most games, and folding when it gets back would be horrendous.

Yes, fold the flop.