turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.

[elysium]

hi everyone
this hand occurred in a loose 20-40. pretty cut and dry. a player who hasn't gotten too far out of line post flop reraises a KQQ board against my AA. it gets capped and we're heads up.

on the turn the A hits giving me the nut boat. bet, raise and he calls. but then the Q hits on the river. now i know he has the Q when he reraises my river raise. shoot, when he bets into me i know he has the quads. but i 4 bet all-in the river anyway. how bad is the four bet here? can you ever put your opponent on quads?

[slavic]

Hope he has an A kicker.

[gaylord focker]

I dont think you can raise the river here. If he pops you again, you are gonna have to call, and you are gonna be very sorry you four bet.

[Ulysses]

[Barry]

The real bad beat here is that he wasn't playing at a casino with a jackpot drop.

[Inthacup]

Unless his opponent was holding specifically AQ, I don't think they would have received the jackpot. Even then, in some casinos, AQ would not have qualified.


Cup

[Barry]

AQ would qualify at the couple of places that I have been to. KQ would be the more tricky one. Does tie go to the players hand or the board?

[Diplomat]

Not to be a jackass, but the ace on the board would play, so AQ would be the tricky one. As for which ace counts, I think it's probably left up to the rulebook of the particular casino. If the board ace counts...well, now -that- is a bad beat.

-Diplomat

[Diplomat]

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now i know he has the Q when he reraises my river raise. shoot, when he bets into me i know he has the quads. but i 4 bet all-in the river anyway. how bad is the four bet here? can you ever put your opponent on quads?


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You tell me how bad it is Elysium. You knew what your opponent had and you did not act accordingly.

At some point you can put your opponent on quads. You did.

-Diplomat

[elysium]

hi diplomat
well, i had just gone through a week straight of the most incredible riverings i've ever had. i know that getting rivered is something you notice more and more the better you get at this game. but i'm talking getting rivered by 1 and 2 outers like 10 times straight. it was uncanny. and the rivering didn't seem to want to end. this particular hand sent me home. no, i didn't bust out, i was out of time and had to go home anyway. i went into tunica up 10 racks and left breaking even. i just never thought it possible to suffer so many riverings against hands with so few outs. they couldn't beat me any other way. and i never thought getting rivered like this was possible. if these games were being played here in miami, i would have suspected cheating. but no cheating here. just incredible riverings. and no, this wasn't the first time my nut boat was rivered by quads, it was the fourth such time in a week. to give you an idea about how bad i was running, i finally hit the nuts on the river in a huge pot only to have my precious flush card return to the deck due to a misdeal. the next hand i flop a nut boat but my opponent flopped quads. of course we slow-played the flop and went into a raising war on the turn and river. why did i put in that extra bet on river? it didn't matter. at that point i knew i was heading back home instead of staying a day longer. i reasoned that if he unexpectantly turned over KK for a lower boat that my gutsy reraise would inspire me to stay that extra day. actually, when he turned over KQo i momentarily thought that i had won disbelieveing for a minute that anything less than pocket QQ and i win. yeah, i had to admit it. he called my pre-flop raise which was reraised behind me with KQo. he entered in with crummy KQ. and whopped my ass good. once the sharks in tunica got a whiff of my blood running oh so badly, they were firing at me with anything and yelping like rebels as they did so. i'm going to return to tunica the LORD willing. i'll return. i don't want to think about vegas or southern cal until i square away tunica. i'm not going to get stopped by tunica.

they got dumb lucky.