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elysium 01-27-2004 11:39 PM

turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
hi everyone
this hand occurred in a loose 20-40. pretty cut and dry. a player who hasn't gotten too far out of line post flop reraises a KQQ board against my AA. it gets capped and we're heads up.

on the turn the A hits giving me the nut boat. bet, raise and he calls. but then the Q hits on the river. now i know he has the Q when he reraises my river raise. shoot, when he bets into me i know he has the quads. but i 4 bet all-in the river anyway. how bad is the four bet here? can you ever put your opponent on quads?


slavic 01-27-2004 11:53 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 

Hope he has an A kicker.

gaylord focker 01-28-2004 02:47 AM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
I dont think you can raise the river here. If he pops you again, you are gonna have to call, and you are gonna be very sorry you four bet.

Ulysses 01-28-2004 05:47 AM

He 4-bet all-in (nm)
 

Barry 01-28-2004 03:55 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
The real bad beat here is that he wasn't playing at a casino with a jackpot drop.

Inthacup 01-28-2004 04:09 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
Unless his opponent was holding specifically AQ, I don't think they would have received the jackpot. Even then, in some casinos, AQ would not have qualified.


Cup

Barry 01-28-2004 04:23 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
AQ would qualify at the couple of places that I have been to. KQ would be the more tricky one. Does tie go to the players hand or the board?

Diplomat 01-28-2004 04:50 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
Not to be a jackass, but the ace on the board would play, so AQ would be the tricky one. As for which ace counts, I think it's probably left up to the rulebook of the particular casino. If the board ace counts...well, now -that- is a bad beat.

-Diplomat

Diplomat 01-28-2004 04:54 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
[ QUOTE ]
now i know he has the Q when he reraises my river raise. shoot, when he bets into me i know he has the quads. but i 4 bet all-in the river anyway. how bad is the four bet here? can you ever put your opponent on quads?


[/ QUOTE ]

You tell me how bad it is Elysium. You knew what your opponent had and you did not act accordingly.

At some point you can put your opponent on quads. You did.

-Diplomat

Barry 01-28-2004 05:09 PM

Re: turn the nut boat but wait....uh oh.
 
Yeah, you're right.. but the question of which A plays is still a local rule.


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