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Old 09-07-2005, 10:35 AM
K_Hunter K_Hunter is offline
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Default Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

My buddy was in the BB with [ Td, Th ]. I folded and he later told me he thought he played this hand just about perfect. This is my history file but should work fine.
No reads on others, button was a semi-loose raiser (88, A5s, etc) if he had position.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls (with 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]), UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

I would have re-raised to try and get heads up with the raiser and to make him think I am on a big pocket pair.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

I sort of like the check-raise but I would have probably bet out.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

Bet is fine.

River: (9.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, BB calls.

I would have check-called. I don't think you will get a call by anything that you can beat and you are going to get raised if he has the ace.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:38 AM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

He butchered pre-flop and flop.

Edit - the way he played pre-flop, the flop is fine.
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

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He butchered pre-flop and flop.

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Old 09-07-2005, 10:40 AM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

yeah, def 3bet PF cause of the large range of hands villian has right now (that we're beating of course)

I prefer betting out on this semi-cooridinated board, not to mention overcards we need to dodge.(EDIT -in other words the C/R blows cause we don't want to trap peeps... I should write smaller responses a la davelin)

I think your buddy's river play was standard
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

Flop is fine, river is the worst street.

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Old 09-07-2005, 10:47 AM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

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Flop is fine, river is the worst street.

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what line do you suggest here on the river?
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

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Flop is fine, river is the worst street.

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what line do you suggest here on the river?

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Hmmm...I think bet/fold over check/call IMO. I'm rusty.
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:50 AM
Rev. Good Will Rev. Good Will is offline
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

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Flop is fine, river is the worst street.

-DeathDonkey

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what line do you suggest here on the river?

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Hmmm...I think bet/fold over check/call. These are tough situations IMO.

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thats what I was thinking too, I think it is a must to bet this river
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Old 09-07-2005, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

Leak alert!!!! Any line that has you folding in this decent sized pot on the river is probably a mistake.

Check/call is MILES ahead of bet/fold.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong

If I checked this river it would be with the intention of folding. That may be the best line. Bet/fold is default.

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