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#1
08-23-2005, 01:09 AM
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$9000 Guaranteed Final Table Hand
Relavent Stacks:
Hero: CO ~$150,000 SB: Villian. Chip Leader: $540,000 BB: Short Stack $12000 Villian Seems pretty solid. He won most of his chips with a lucky triple up all in with AA before the flop. 7 handed. Blinds $8,000/$16000. Ante: $800 Dealt to Hero A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Pot PF: $25600 <font color="grey">3 folds to hero.</font> <font color="red">Hero Raises to $40,000</font> <font color="grey">Button Folds</font>. Villian Calls $40,000. BB is all in for $12,000. Flop (Main Pot: $36,000. Side Pot: $56,000): J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Villian Checks. Hero... ? Who just folds this PF? 
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#4
08-23-2005, 01:18 AM
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Re: $9000 Guaranteed Final Table Hand
I'd throw out a 30k bet on the flop hoping to take the sidepot.
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#6
08-23-2005, 05:37 AM
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Re: $9000 Guaranteed Final Table Hand
Anybody prefer a call PF? If so, why?
My thought process at the time was that it was a good way to take a cheap shot at the BB. SB hadn't been playing too many hands recently, and thought he'd let me take a shot by myself. How much should the all in BB affect my decision to play this hand? How might it affect SB's actions?
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#7
08-23-2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: $9000 Guaranteed Final Table Hand
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Anybody prefer a call PF? If so, why? [/ QUOTE ] Nope. With position you've got to take control of this hand. Don't hand the power to SB. [ QUOTE ] How much should the all in BB affect my decision to play this hand? [/ QUOTE ] You've got a decent hand against the blinds anyway. The forced-all-in, especially folded to you in the CO, makes it irresistable. [ QUOTE ] How might it affect SB's actions? [/ QUOTE ] He'll either get to see a cheap flop to try and take out BB, or he may well come in with a raise of his own to try and isolate BB himself. I don't see a fold in that situation. If you call you hand the ball off to SB. Since you read him as solid, you won't get much information if he fires at the flop. This leaves you re-raising preflop. Not only does that leave you vulnerable to a push, it pretty much commits you to the pot and if he hits the flop well he's got you by the short and curlies. As it played out I'd fire around 24K in there on the flop and fold to a check-raise... Villain has the stack to feel comfortable calling just about anything but an all-in and you really don't want to push. A small bet should be enough to flush out a check-raise while representing an AJ screaming "Please call!" Either way it'll still leave you enough for 3 more orbits.
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#9
08-23-2005, 03:10 PM
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Re: $9000 Guaranteed Final Table Hand
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how many are left? [/ QUOTE ] 7 Players are left. Everybody is in the money. [ QUOTE ] What are the other stacks like? [/ QUOTE ] I'm about middle of the pack. SB has about a 3:2 chip lead on second place. Other stacks are between $50,000-$350,000. [ QUOTE ] Will you be the new shorty? [/ QUOTE ] If I check fold this, I'll have about $110,000 left, and will be in the bottom $25%, but there are still 2 stacks under me (3 if BB survives). [ QUOTE ] Whats the payout structure? [/ QUOTE ] This is probably not quite right, but it's my best guess off the top of my head. 1st: $2500 2nd: $1500 3rd: $1000 4th: $750 5th: $500 6th: $350 7th: $250 How much does the payout schedule here affect my play if I'm trying to maximize my EV? How much does it affect my play if I'm trying to win the tourney?
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#10
08-23-2005, 05:35 PM
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Re: $9000 Guaranteed Final Table Hand
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] how many are left? [/ QUOTE ] 7 Players are left. Everybody is in the money. [ QUOTE ] What are the other stacks like? [/ QUOTE ] I'm about middle of the pack. SB has about a 3:2 chip lead on second place. Other stacks are between $50,000-$350,000. [ QUOTE ] Will you be the new shorty? [/ QUOTE ] If I check fold this, I'll have about $110,000 left, and will be in the bottom $25%, but there are still 2 stacks under me (3 if BB survives). [ QUOTE ] Whats the payout structure? [/ QUOTE ] This is probably not quite right, but it's my best guess off the top of my head. 1st: $2500 2nd: $1500 3rd: $1000 4th: $750 5th: $500 6th: $350 7th: $250 How much does the payout schedule here affect my play if I'm trying to maximize my EV? How much does it affect my play if I'm trying to win the tourney? [/ QUOTE ] Payout structure is a personal thing. Pure EV, this is a push PF I think. For me personally, I want to win this thing and Ill push this flop too. If going from 250 to 450 is a huge deal, then I might think BB's plan was to cooperate here and I would comply. But, I'd normally push this. Add 2 zeros to the payouts and Ill check down (even though it might be wrong). Like I said its a personal preference.
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