KK facing check-re-raise

Izenra · #1 07-05-2005, 03:56 PM

You will understand by check-re-raise [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I have no read on the vilain. I just got at this table and I don't have note on him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) converter

MP2 ($108.4)
MP3 ($187.27)
CO ($69.1)
Hero ($105.2)
SB ($128.35)
BB ($221.45)
UTG(V) ($108.73)
UTG+1 ($101.5)
MP1 ($43.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, UTG(V) calls $4, UTG+1 calls $4, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4.

Flop: ($31) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG(V) checks, UTG+1 bets $5, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $20, SB folds, UTG(V) raises to $45, UTG+1 folds, Hero ...

What do you do?

soah · #2 07-05-2005, 04:00 PM

Raise to $8-10 preflop and it's a lot easier to play.

BZ_Zorro · #3 07-05-2005, 04:48 PM

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Raise to $8-10 preflop and it's a lot easier to play.

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Yeah, because you don't see a flop

amoeba · #4 07-05-2005, 04:56 PM

to be fair there were 4 limpers and going by 4bb+1 bb per limper, it would put it at $8.

djoyce003 · #5 07-05-2005, 04:59 PM

yeah...4xbb is a standard raise with no limpers....a raise to 8 or 10 would be fairly standard here...you don't want this to be a multiway pot that will be huge on the flop with 4 or 5 people in and you are left holding just one pair.

BZ_Zorro · #6 07-05-2005, 05:07 PM

Standard raise my ass. You raise what will get called by 1 or 2 people. 6-8 is plenty. 10BB is overkill. Aces, anyone?

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you don't want this to be a multiway pot that will be huge on the flop with 4 or 5 people in and you are left holding just one pair.

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Obviously. You also don't want to take it down pf with a monster hand.

FreakDaddy · #7 07-05-2005, 05:11 PM

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Standard raise my ass. You raise what will get called by 1 or 2 people. 6-8 is plenty. 10BB is overkill. Aces, anyone?

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you don't want this to be a multiway pot that will be huge on the flop with 4 or 5 people in and you are left holding just one pair.

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Obviously. You also don't want to take it down pf with a monster hand.

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Anything less than $8 is incorrect in this situation BZ. Read my post.

soah · #8 07-05-2005, 07:32 PM

Your money isn't going to last long if your gameplan is to juice the pot up preflop and then try to make one pair hold up against five opponents.

FreakDaddy · #9 07-05-2005, 05:09 PM

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Raise to $8-10 preflop and it's a lot easier to play.

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Agreed... that's what I said as well. I don't think a lot of people here realize why it's so important to do this with limpers in front. If you're not going to raise and give most hands improper odds, then your almost better off just calling and looking at a flop. ALMOST [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

amoeba · #10 07-05-2005, 04:03 PM

it looks like a set or AA.

JJ or QQ probably would have raised preflop.

TT or 99 wouldn't 3 bet the flop I don't think.

I think I fold.