KK - check raised all in on scary flop...

[JackOfSpeed]

I hadn't seen much of Villain, although I would later discover he's a bit silly - lots of minraising with people already in the pot, et cetera. With no read, i cant make this call, can I?

What do you do if you know the guy is a dummy?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ ($198)
Hero ($200)
CO ($43.6)
Button ($50)
SB ($198)
BB ($43.4)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $13.

Flop: ($45) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Villain pushes all-in (177; 147 more to call) Hero folds.

Final Pot: $282

[JackOfSpeed]

Really can't put him on Aces here. Didn't think he was wild enough to do this with AK or an underpair. Even though he MIGHT have AQ, I think this board would have freaked him out too much to push. But, again, I later realized that, while he's not a total donk, he plays strangely.

Of course he could have something like AQ, but I think I have to give him credit for a set, JQ, or perhaps 9T for the straight with the way this was played.

[flawless_victory]

what the hell are you asking?

[JackOfSpeed]

Are you that dense?

In case you are, what i'm asking (and pardon me if you're an expert and the answer is completely obvious to you -- some of us are former fishies trying to learn) is: Easy overpair to get away from? What do huge overbets at NL $200 usually mean?

[flawless_victory]

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Easy overpair to get away from?

[/ QUOTE ] against most, hell yes.
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What do huge overbets at NL $200 usually mean?

[/ QUOTE ]i havent played it alot, but the nuts would be my first guess.

[JackOfSpeed]

Boom. Thanks for the answer. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]