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JackOfSpeed 06-12-2005 11:13 AM

KK - check raised all in on scary flop...
 
I hadn't seen much of Villain, although I would later discover he's a bit silly - lots of minraising with people already in the pot, et cetera. With no read, i cant make this call, can I?

What do you do if you know the guy is a dummy?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ ($198)
Hero ($200)
CO ($43.6)
Button ($50)
SB ($198)
BB ($43.4)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls $13.

Flop: ($45) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, Villain pushes all-in (177; 147 more to call) Hero folds.

Final Pot: $282

JackOfSpeed 06-12-2005 11:19 AM

Some thoughts...
 
Really can't put him on Aces here. Didn't think he was wild enough to do this with AK or an underpair. Even though he MIGHT have AQ, I think this board would have freaked him out too much to push. But, again, I later realized that, while he's not a total donk, he plays strangely.

Of course he could have something like AQ, but I think I have to give him credit for a set, JQ, or perhaps 9T for the straight with the way this was played.

flawless_victory 06-12-2005 03:38 PM

Re: KK - check raised all in on scary flop...
 
what the hell are you asking?

JackOfSpeed 06-12-2005 03:48 PM

Re: KK - check raised all in on scary flop...
 
Are you that dense?

In case you are, what i'm asking (and pardon me if you're an expert and the answer is completely obvious to you -- some of us are former fishies trying to learn) is: Easy overpair to get away from? What do huge overbets at NL $200 usually mean?

flawless_victory 06-12-2005 03:53 PM

Re: KK - check raised all in on scary flop...
 
[ QUOTE ]
Easy overpair to get away from?

[/ QUOTE ] against most, hell yes.
[ QUOTE ]
What do huge overbets at NL $200 usually mean?

[/ QUOTE ]i havent played it alot, but the nuts would be my first guess.

JackOfSpeed 06-12-2005 03:55 PM

Re: KK - check raised all in on scary flop...
 
Boom. Thanks for the answer. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]


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