Flop decision

chief444 · #1 05-09-2005, 10:36 AM

UTG limps, MP1 raises (30/15/2.5 or so), 2 MP coldcalls, I coldcall on the button with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls. BB and UTG are both reasonably tight/somewhat aggressive...say 25/8/2. Both MP coldcallers are loose/passive.

6 to the flop for ~12 SB's

Flop is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checked to hero who.....

Piiop · #2 05-09-2005, 10:45 AM

I'd check. With this non-scary board, it's unlikely anyone with a pair or two overcards will fold for just 1 bet so you're not folding any better hands. Take a free card.

Piiop · #3 05-09-2005, 11:30 AM

I really don't see many hands folding here. I can see betting for a free turn card, but are our draws really enough for that or is the free flop card better.

QTip · #4 05-09-2005, 12:24 PM

...and what about the times that you check and the turn checks around anyway...it happens.

CanKid · #5 05-09-2005, 10:46 AM

I'd bet and hope best case scenerio, to get it checked to me on the turn if I completely whiff. May fold some hands you want out of there too (qj, kt, kj, etc). Plus I find when I check here, sometimes the turn goes bet-stealraise, and you gotta fold a hand that might be more live than you think.

CanKid · #6 05-09-2005, 11:13 AM

Surprising how many check here, would the people who check raise a bet from the PFR? How bout from one of limpers?

Buckmulligan · #7 05-09-2005, 11:19 AM

Easy bet, IMO. With all the cold callers, a bet not only gets you a free card, perhaps, but it cleans up your dominated outs sometimes.

meep_42 · #8 05-09-2005, 12:19 PM

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I'd bet and hope best case scenerio, to get it checked to me on the turn if I completely whiff. May fold some hands you want out of there too (qj, kt, kj, etc). Plus I find when I check here, sometimes the turn goes bet-stealraise, and you gotta fold a hand that might be more live than you think.

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I think there's zero chance that a bet folds any two-overcard hand. The only hands that may fold are small pairs that didn't hit the board.

-d

QTip · #9 05-09-2005, 10:49 AM

Cool hand. This is a fairly decent holding at this point, but I don't like a bet here. You were blessed with the opportunity to get a free card here, and I'd take it. Here's why:

1. Betting could get you a c/r and no free turn.

2. If you catch a Jack, you may get someone to bet into you on your right and can raise.

3. In a pot that large, just about any holding (bottom pair, etc.) can call profitably.

RobbyD · #10 05-09-2005, 10:54 AM

Take the free card. You arent forcing anyone off their hand. If you get check raised your shafted.