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Old 04-03-2005, 11:48 AM
pshabi pshabi is offline
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Default Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

All streets please.

CO - Tag
BB - Fishy
UTG - LAG
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB
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Old 04-03-2005, 11:57 AM
Chris_P Chris_P is offline
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

Pre-Flop: Fold
Flop: Fold
Turn: Check/fold
River Bet

why are u completing with 65o?!?! its asking for trouble in the long run
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Old 04-03-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

Preflop isn't a fold. I like the hand.
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Old 04-03-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

preflop is definitely a fold. You have to remember, in 3/6 SB only posts a meagre buck. So you're adding 2/3rds of a small bet for a 5 6 offsuit OOP. This is a terrible play.
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Old 04-03-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

this is an easy preflop fold.

likewise on the flop.

check/folding on the turn would be bad, though.
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Old 04-03-2005, 05:22 PM
marching_on_together marching_on_together is offline
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

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this is an easy preflop fold.

likewise on the flop.

check/folding on the turn would be bad, though.

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depends on the game on the flop, this could well be an autobet when checked to by the CO, if you fear check raises then maybe fold if not then i call this and see what develops
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Old 04-03-2005, 06:25 PM
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you're out of positiong with a low bottom pair, a shitty kicker, and a weak draw. anyone with a overcards to you has redraws, meaning this field, if not ahead already, has huge redraws against you. if you think the CO is auto-betting, or had a reason to suspect you might be ahead of the CO, or had a stronger draw, i'd much rather raise and clear out some of this field. i don't see much advantage to calling and re-evaluating, and i think your equity and draw and opponents are all too weak to raise. this seems like a very clear fold.
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Old 04-03-2005, 10:26 PM
Hoi Polloi Hoi Polloi is offline
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

Do you really think this hand is a long-term winner? And you like this flop?!? Bottom pair, no kicker!?!
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Old 04-03-2005, 12:17 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

Preflop is ok. Fold the flop. Can't fold the turn (muchos outs).
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Old 04-03-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Advanced Play or total misuse of poker concepts?

Flop reasoning:

I can improve to the best hand with a 6 (2 outs), a 5 (3 outs)and a backdoor straight (1 out). Maybe I'm a little bit ahead of myself but I'm figuring the flop bettor has TPTK at best, maybe even overcards. No one has two pair here.

I 100% expected 2 calls behind me from the EP checks. That gives me 8 to 1 on the flop with 6 outs. Implied odds are goign to give me an overlay.

I wasn't that happy when the rest of the field folded, but the turn brought more outs.
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