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Old 02-10-2005, 07:50 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default JJ fold

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 is a 17/8/1.7 player and MP1 is a 36/12/0.4 player

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.66 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero folds...
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: JJ fold

*yawn* Next hand...
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: JJ fold

You do look screwed here for sure, I fold too.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: JJ fold

I wouldn't make this fold, but I can see how the TA-N's flop raise followed by the 3-bet by MP1, who is ordinarily passive postflop (but, in this hand, makes a suspiciously and uncharacteristically passive preflop cold-call) could make it correct.

I'm thinking MP1 probably has AA or a set (though I guess something like 87s is also possible, which would also be a big problem).

I'm also thinking I'm not ready for 15/30.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:56 AM
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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:57 AM
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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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Are you serious?
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:42 PM
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Yes... but I guess asking for more info/trying to learn something is wrong.... sorry for wasting space in your thread..
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:07 PM
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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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Are you serious?

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I think you're overly harsh here. While it is probably better to cap preflop I doubt there's much in it. I can't exactly see UTG+1 3 betting with 99.
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:29 PM
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I just don't understand the PF cap. UTG seems to be a tight player and most likely is 3-betting with AA-QQ and AK. MP1 is loose but aggressive PF and here makes a very unusual call of 3-cold (AA-22???, Ax?). I can understand capping it if you're putting UTG on AK and MP1 on a smaller pair. If you're going to make this read and cap PF then don't you need to see this hand at least a round further on this board? Wouldn't you cap the flop to drive out UTG... bet the turn and fold to a raise?
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: JJ fold

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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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Are you serious?

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I think you're overly harsh here.

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Ya think? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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