JJ fold
 

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 is a 17/8/1.7 player and MP1 is a 36/12/0.4 player

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.66 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero folds...

Re: JJ fold
 

*yawn* Next hand...

Re: JJ fold
 

You do look screwed here for sure, I fold too.

Re: JJ fold
 

I wouldn't make this fold, but I can see how the TA-N's flop raise followed by the 3-bet by MP1, who is ordinarily passive postflop (but, in this hand, makes a suspiciously and uncharacteristically passive preflop cold-call) could make it correct.

I'm thinking MP1 probably has AA or a set (though I guess something like 87s is also possible, which would also be a big problem).

I'm also thinking I'm not ready for 15/30.

Re: JJ fold
 

What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

Re: JJ fold
 

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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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Are you serious?

Re: JJ fold
 

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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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My guess is that hero feels that his pot equity at this moment is substantially greater than 25%, especially if the villains are sharing each others outs with hands like AK and AQ.

Re: JJ fold
 

Is .4 his post flop-aggression? Thats pretty low for someone so loose and aggressive pre-flop. Seems like he must have a big hand.

If that is based on a large number of hands I like your fold.

If not, I am not yet convinced that you are behind. If the same action repeats on the turn, I would be convinced.

I try not to read too much into flop aggression, especially when the pot is big.

Re: JJ fold
 

Yes... but I guess asking for more info/trying to learn something is wrong.... sorry for wasting space in your thread..

Re: JJ fold
 

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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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Are you serious?

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I think you're overly harsh here. While it is probably better to cap preflop I doubt there's much in it. I can't exactly see UTG+1 3 betting with 99.