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AQ hand - is this standard?
Just sat down so no reads.
SB is 40/13 over 40 hands MP2 is 26/6 over 40 hands I didn't take these stats too seriously because it's only 40 hands. Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls. I didn't want to raise because I'm out of position here. Should I? Flop: (6 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 7.50 BB |
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Re: AQ hand - is this standard?
Don't see much point in raising apart from maybe clearing up some outs, but you might not get him to fold anyway and there's a good chance you're up against an overpair that's going to 3 bet. I peel. Call the turn, if he has something like KK you have up to 10 outs.
Edit: Maybe folding the flop is best I'll have to look deeper later. |
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Re: AQ hand - is this standard?
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Don't see much point in raising apart from maybe clearing up some outs, but you might not get him to fold anyway and there's a good chance you're up against an overpair that's going to 3 bet. I peel. Call the turn, if he has something like KK you have up to 10 outs. Edit: Maybe folding the flop is best I'll have to look deeper later. [/ QUOTE ] somebody want to enlighten me on how we calculated TEN outs? |
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Re: AQ hand - is this standard?
The ten outs come from 4 4's to make his gutshot, 3 queens and 3 aces. I personally, don't think he's got ten outs though. Given the action, I'm thinking MP may have a set or already have the straght. 3-betting is a pretty strong move. One of the villians could also have a flush draw. Does hitting the gutshot ship you the entire pot or are you chopping with someone else? Ten outs is a very liberal calculation IMO. T |
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somebody want to enlighten me on how we calculated TEN outs? [/ QUOTE ] I calculated approx 10 on the flop. Four 4's = 4 outs BD FD = 1.5 Three A's = 3 outs Three Q's = 1.5 outs (assuming partial outs since we could be up against KK here) Peace. |
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Re: AQ hand - is this standard?
That was a crazy game of poker you just played.
I 3 bet an open raiser with AQo in the BB all day long. I don't know what you were doing on the flop. You have a gutshot and a back door flush draw. I don't think raising is the best play. |
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Re: AQ hand - is this standard?
I raised to try to get MP out.
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I raised to try to get MP out. [/ QUOTE ] But MP has already shown aggression preflop. With no reads, and a raggedy flop, did you think he would fold? |
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That was a crazy game of poker you just played. I 3 bet an open raiser with AQo in the BB all day long. I don't know what you were doing on the flop. You have a gutshot and a back door flush draw. I don't think raising is the best play. [/ QUOTE ] He had around 10 outs on the flop and 8sb's in the pot...he easily has the odds to call, do you not think raising is a good move here to try and force the preflop raiser out ? I do, but then I'm a n00b [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I like the play so far and think you JUST ABOUT have the odds to call on the turn. |
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Re: AQ hand - is this standard?
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[ QUOTE ] That was a crazy game of poker you just played. I 3 bet an open raiser with AQo in the BB all day long. I don't know what you were doing on the flop. You have a gutshot and a back door flush draw. I don't think raising is the best play. [/ QUOTE ] He had around 10 outs on the flop and 8sb's in the pot...he easily has the odds to call, do you not think raising is a good move here to try and force the preflop raiser out ? I do, but then I'm a n00b [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I like the play so far and think you JUST ABOUT have the odds to call on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, you are still drawing though. Why raise and have MP 3-bet and blow out SB? |
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