the rake in poker

[Ray Zee]

since most regular players play at least above average, it follows that the rake is the biggest deternination of why people lose in games. bad players lose to the rake and good players. medium good players tend to go broke after some time as the rake catches up to them and depletes their starting bankroll.
expenses are the main reason more players dont win and the winners dont win alot.
players that put in major hours pay between ten thousand and fifty thousand dollars a year just in rake depending on what and how much they play. you have to win that just to be even. so any cut in the rake adds that amount plus to your bankroll. the plus comes fom additional money that stays on the table instead of dissapearing.

[ZeeJustin]

Is norake.org paying you for that post?

On a less cynical note, it would be nice to see a rakeless future for online poker. At the same time, PartyPoker is unfortunately far more profitable (for experts and smalltime winners alike) than any low rake alternatives.

[Tosh]

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players that put in major hours pay between ten thousand and fifty thousand dollars a year just in rake depending on what and how much they play. you have to win that just to be even. so any cut in the rake adds that amount plus to your bankroll. the plus comes fom additional money that stays on the table instead of dissapearing.

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With online poker those numbers are tiny in comparison. I paid 4k in rake over the last 3 weeks of June and I'm sure there are those paying a fair bit more than that.

[Inthacup]

players that put in major hours pay between ten thousand and fifty thousand dollars a year just in rake

With the ease of multitabling, paying 100k a year in rake is fairly easy. I'm sure a few people on these boards pay over 200k.


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[Schneids]

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I'm sure a few people on these boards pay over 200k.


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I doubt it. Most of the 6-8 tablers go skimpy on the hours. I cannot blame them for it, it's very grueling and trying, yet monotonous at the same time.

[TazQ]

I pay over $50/hr in rake. It sucks.

[Drunk Bob]

I have seen some claims on this site but this one is impossible.

to pay $50 /hr in rake at an online table you would have to play 1667 hands per hour.
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[Tosh]

You have some serious error in your calculation somewhere. A lot of players are paying in excess of $50 an hour in rake.

[Losing all]

Is there a follow up coming? If not thanks for the rake for beginers lesson. Can you explain the small and big blind to me?

[Homer]

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Is there a follow up coming? If not thanks for the rake for beginers lesson. Can you explain the small and big blind to me?

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This is harsh, but completely true.

When I read this post, I was thinking about how this topic has been discussed 100 times, yet this thread will probably get 100 responses since Ray Zee started it.

-- Homer