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04-25-2004, 05:33 PM
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implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
Dealt 53o in BB.
UTG+1, CO-1, button, and SB all limp. I see the free flop and its: A72 rainbow. UTG+1 bets out, CO-1 folds, button calls, SB calls. My action? With the rake, it's 7.8-1 to call now. 
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#3
04-26-2004, 10:37 AM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
I don't think the implied odds are there.
The only caller you'll get is the bettor who (most likely) has a pair of Aces. Everyone else will fold when you bet or raise knowing you hit a straight. But, it IS one small bet and you ARE on the Button. If that A had been a T or lower, I'd feel better about calling because a small pair might win. Spyder
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#4
04-26-2004, 01:05 PM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
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I don't think the implied odds are there. [/ QUOTE ] if he has a pair of aces, then he'll pay off 2 BB, more likely 3 BB. all you need for implied odds are 1.5 BB.
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#5
04-26-2004, 01:09 PM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
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[ QUOTE ] I don't think the implied odds are there. [/ QUOTE ] if he has a pair of aces, then he'll pay off 2 BB, more likely 3 BB. all you need for implied odds are 1.5 BB. [/ QUOTE ] In addition, I'm curious about the Button here. He just calls twice on an EP player. I think there's a good chance he has a Ace-little or a small-pair. With the board being rags, it's a good chance he either has or will make two-pair or trips if/when the BB makes a straight and will pay off too.
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#6
04-27-2004, 04:16 AM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
I think there's a good chance he has a Ace-little or a small-pair. With the board being rags, it's a good chance he either has or will make two-pair or trips if/when the BB makes a straight and will pay off too.
Assuming this is a low-limit Party game, there's a good chance you'll get the turn and river capped three ways between some guy with ace/no kicker and another guy with queen-high who decided to cold-bluff all the way. Your opponents tend to play like utter crapola. Hands like this are a perfect spot to take advantage of that.
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#7
04-27-2004, 12:22 PM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
You're right. It is only a small bet to call...I was thinking big bet. But, if I don't get that 6 on the turn, I'd be hard put to make that call to see the River.
Spyder
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#9
04-26-2004, 04:19 AM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
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Dealt 53o in BB. UTG+1, CO-1, button, and SB all limp. I see the free flop and its: A72 rainbow. UTG+1 bets out, CO-1 folds, button calls, SB calls. My action? With the rake, it's 7.8-1 to call now. [/ QUOTE ] - you're closing the action - if you hit, you have great relative position to the bettor - you only need to make up about 3 SB. you can EASILY do this - you are drawing to the nuts - if you hit, it's not likely anyone will have a decent redraw I call and I don't think it's close
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#10
04-26-2004, 07:25 AM
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Re: implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?
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- you're closing the action - if you hit, you have great relative position to the bettor - you only need to make up about 3 SB. you can EASILY do this - you are drawing to the nuts - if you hit, it's not likely anyone will have a decent redraw I call and I don't think it's close [/ QUOTE ] I agree, I guess this depends on heros leval of skill. Me personally? I fold beacuse I try to keep my decisions based on immediate pot odds, it keeps me out of trouble.
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