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Old 11-19-2005, 09:03 PM
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Default KK vs TAG

Villain is 25/20/2.7 after 150 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Whatchya think?
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:06 PM
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Better to put 3 in on the turn.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: KK vs TAG

3-bet the turn.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:12 PM
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Agreed, 100%
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: KK vs TAG

i see no reason not to call river. his turn raise means big hand. hopefully he has aq or kk or jj or is retarded.
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Old 11-19-2005, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: KK vs TAG

the river check-raise is pretty bad. when his turn raise wasn't for a free showdown, your equity isn't that great.

3betting the turn is bad too. if he needs AQ or better to raise there, then you're not doing that great, especially if you can discount AQo at all based on preflop.

if he'll raise for a free showdown there, then you should call the turn and bet/call the river. that should get the most value out of stuff worse than a pair of queens and get you to showdown cheap'ish when you're behind
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Old 11-19-2005, 10:24 PM
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i see no reason not to call river. his turn raise means big hand. hopefully he has aq or kk or jj or is retarded.

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Old 11-19-2005, 10:25 PM
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the river check-raise is pretty bad. when his turn raise wasn't for a free showdown, your equity isn't that great.

3betting the turn is bad too. if he needs AQ or better to raise there, then you're not doing that great, especially if you can discount AQo at all based on preflop.

if he'll raise for a free showdown there, then you should call the turn and bet/call the river. that should get the most value out of stuff worse than a pair of queens and get you to showdown cheap'ish when you're behind

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Villain is 25/20/2.7 after 150 hands.

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Old 11-19-2005, 10:36 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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I would just call river I think. River c/r isn't terrible but I think it's breakeven and variance-increasing at best. On any card but a heart it would be gross.
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Old 11-20-2005, 12:54 PM
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i don't get the river c/r. what do you put him on by the river to justify a c/r?
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