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11-19-2005 09:03 PM

KK vs TAG
 
Villain is 25/20/2.7 after 150 hands.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Whatchya think?

11-19-2005 09:06 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
Better to put 3 in on the turn.

jason_t 11-19-2005 09:08 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
3-bet the turn.

11-19-2005 09:12 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
Agreed, 100%

Victor 11-19-2005 09:37 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
i see no reason not to call river. his turn raise means big hand. hopefully he has aq or kk or jj or is retarded.

gehrig 11-19-2005 09:49 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
the river check-raise is pretty bad. when his turn raise wasn't for a free showdown, your equity isn't that great.

3betting the turn is bad too. if he needs AQ or better to raise there, then you're not doing that great, especially if you can discount AQo at all based on preflop.

if he'll raise for a free showdown there, then you should call the turn and bet/call the river. that should get the most value out of stuff worse than a pair of queens and get you to showdown cheap'ish when you're behind

___1___ 11-19-2005 10:24 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
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i see no reason not to call river. his turn raise means big hand. hopefully he has aq or kk or jj or is retarded.

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jason_t 11-19-2005 10:25 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
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the river check-raise is pretty bad. when his turn raise wasn't for a free showdown, your equity isn't that great.

3betting the turn is bad too. if he needs AQ or better to raise there, then you're not doing that great, especially if you can discount AQo at all based on preflop.

if he'll raise for a free showdown there, then you should call the turn and bet/call the river. that should get the most value out of stuff worse than a pair of queens and get you to showdown cheap'ish when you're behind

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Villain is 25/20/2.7 after 150 hands.

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Danenania 11-19-2005 10:36 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
I would just call river I think. River c/r isn't terrible but I think it's breakeven and variance-increasing at best. On any card but a heart it would be gross.

chio 11-20-2005 12:54 PM

Re: KK vs TAG
 
i don't get the river c/r. what do you put him on by the river to justify a c/r?


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