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09-24-2005 04:37 AM

party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
Party Poker (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 folds, Hero calls 102.50 (All-In), UTG+2 calls 13.90 (All-In), MP2 calls 49.50 (All-In), CO calls 47.75 (All-In).

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 4 all-in)</font>

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 4 all-in)</font>

Final Pot:

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 6s 6h (three of a kind, sixes).
UTG+2 has Qc Qh (three of a kind, queens).
MP2 doesn't show.
CO has 7s 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: CO wins . Hero wins . UTG+2 wins . </font>

09-24-2005 04:38 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
oh yeah, MP2 had AA

09-24-2005 04:47 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
and for the record, this isn't a bad beat thread. i have accepted set over set as a fact of life sometime. I just want an odds person to give me the odds of this.

yvesaint 09-24-2005 04:50 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
holy crap set over set actually happens?? i t hought it was a myth

orange 09-24-2005 04:52 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
Spam-cry me a river.

09-24-2005 04:56 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
I'm not crying. I seriously just want the odds

Riposte 09-24-2005 05:02 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
rigged for what? for you specifically to lose?

wtfsvi 09-24-2005 05:03 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
</font><blockquote><font class="small">Svar på:</font><hr />
Outcome: CO wins . Hero wins . UTG+2 wins

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Funny. I think I'd post that hand too.

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09-24-2005 05:23 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
[ QUOTE ]
I just want an odds person to give me the odds of this.

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You don't need an odds person, all you need is an IQ above 80.

Three people hold pocket pairs, 66, 77 QQ. We need a flop of Q76 in any order. There are 52-6 = 46 cards in the deck. There are 6 ways to choose the first card, 4 to choose the second, 2 to choose the third.

So the odds are:
(6/46)*(4/45)*(2/44) = 1 in 1897.

At a 10 handed table, the probability of AT LEAST 3 people holding pocket pairs preflop is 1.78%, or roughly one hand in 56. The number is actually slightly higher than 1.78% as I did an approximation, but it's very close.

So you're going to see this particular situation come up roughly one hand in 100,000. Of course, 66 and 77 flopping sets and QQ catching a set on the turn or river is even more likely, you'll see that 1 hand in 50,000 (in addition to the above), you'll also see 66 quads vs QQ set even more often, or any other myriad of combinations which seem unlikely but are actually expected.

In other words, shut the [censored] up and use your brain. The sites aren't rigged, anyone with a tiny bit of sense can see why.

09-24-2005 05:27 AM

Re: party isn\'t rigged my ass
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I just want an odds person to give me the odds of this.

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You don't needs an odds person, all you need is an IQ above 80.

Three people hold pocket pairs, 66, 77 QQ. We need a flop of Q76 in any order. There are 52-6 = 46 cards in the deck. There are 6 ways to choose the first card, 5 to choose the second, 4 to choose the third.

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Actually, once the first Q, 7, or 6 has come, you only have 4 ways, not 5. Once the next card has come, you only have 2, not 4.


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