Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

What percentage of the time will suited connectors flop either ,Two pair(or boat or quads) or Four to a flush(flush) or OESD(or the straight)? Thanks

Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

Don't trust this post. I'm curious if anyone wants to tackle this problem and correct my errors (I'm sure there are some).

Assuming you have Js-10s.

There are 117600 flop possibilities.

Exactly Quads: 2 Combinations
Exactly Boat: 18 combinations
Exactly Trips: 264 combinations
Exactly Two Pair: 396 combinations
Four Flush (incl. OESFD): 2035 Combinations
Flush (incl. SF): 165 Combinations
OESD: 320 Combinations
Straight: 192 Combinations

Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

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Assuming you have Js-10s.
There are 117600 flop possibilities.


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I believe there are 19600 flop possibilities.
C(50,3) = 19600. You are assuming two flops
with different order are distinct.

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Exactly Quads: 2 Combinations
Exactly Boat: 18 combinations
Exactly Trips: 264 combinations
Exactly Two Pair: 396 combinations


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I get 66 exactly-trips combos, and 99 exactly-two-pair combos.

The rest I have not looked yet.

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Four Flush (incl. OESFD): 2035 Combinations
Flush (incl. SF): 165 Combinations
OESD: 320 Combinations
Straight: 192 Combinations

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Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

Yeah, the order was the issue...I forgot to divide by 3!. First time in a while I've had that blunder. Definitely an oversight [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

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Don't trust this post. I'm curious if anyone wants to tackle this problem and correct my errors (I'm sure there are some).

Assuming you have Js-10s.

There are 117600 flop possibilities.

Exactly Quads: 2 Combinations
Exactly Boat: 18 combinations
Exactly Trips: 264 combinations
Exactly Two Pair: 396 combinations
Four Flush (incl. OESFD): 2035 Combinations
Flush (incl. SF): 165 Combinations
OESD: 320 Combinations
Straight: 192 Combinations

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Do you want to flop a straight, 2 pair or straight draw when the board is 3 flush against you? Do you want to flop a straight draw on a paired board?

In other words, some of these "good" flops are dangerous.

Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

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I get 66 exactly-trips combos

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I'm wondering how you got there. Did you consider the fact that there's 3 ways for the first two cards to be J-J? Maybe I'm overlooking something. Wouldn't surprise me.

Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

I analyzed this for a similar hand.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...774&Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit =25&Main=2188301&Search=true&where=&am p;Name=20638&daterange=&newerval=&newe rtype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=# Post2189774

Cobra

Re: Basic Suited Connectors question.
 

So relatively close...I excluded double belly busters, but I think for the most part we're in agreement.

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Cobra, acording to your math, there is a 48.49 chance of hitting something on the flop with these cards. Did i do my math right?

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I get 66 exactly-trips combos

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I'm wondering how you got there. Did you consider the fact that there's 3 ways for the first two cards to be J-J? Maybe I'm overlooking something. Wouldn't surprise me.

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No. My mistake. I multiplied by 11, for the remaining
non-trip-contributing card, and forgot about its suit.
I should have multiplied by 44. (Note 66x4 = 264).
Apologies.