Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

BB ($544.73)
UTG ($198)
UTG+1 ($203.68)
MP1 ($322.7)
MP2 ($199.6)
MP3 ($193)
CO ($243.45)
Hero ($368.65)
SB ($244)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7, SB folds, BB calls $7.

I have a tight image and have shown down winners. I mix it up here by flat calling to give villian a chance to put me on a flush draw to extract some money from AJ or a similar hand. I think AJ, Axs or a draw are probable holdings for villian. He is a 45/0 over 50 hands.

Turn: ($29) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls $15.

River: ($89) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Bison messed this up. Villian checks, i bet 50$, he minraises to 100$, i push.

Please give your comments on all streets.

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

I'm not much of a NL player, infact, my first time in this forum, but I'll take a stab.
I really like the way you played this, especially the smooth call on the flop. I don't mind taking off a card here, even with the flush draw on the board. Like you said, he may put you on the draw, and you can possibly use that later if it hits.
On the turn, I would have raised more, $40-$45.
The river, I like your play. Of course you do have the 2nd nuts. I put this player on a middle pair, possibly even a set of nines. But I'm a complete moron, and a limit specialist.

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Like you said, he may put you on the draw, and you can possibly use that later if it hits.


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I was planning to use that later if it didn't hit, since I had no reason to believe my top 2 was not the best hand. The flush would ruin my hand since it would either complete his draw or take away my action.

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Like you said, he may put you on the draw, and you can possibly use that later if it hits.


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I was planning to use that later if it didn't hit, since I had no reason to believe my top 2 was not the best hand. The flush would ruin my hand since it would either complete his draw or take away my action.

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You're right, but like I said, I'm a moron. And I don't think he had a draw. Did he?

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

Just moving this to the top again. I would really like some feedback on this one. Thanks!

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

raise or fold preflop

raise the flop

don't minraise the turn

river is fine

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

Thanks for the reply Swolfe. I am not defending my play here but would like you and others to go a little deeper with this.

Preflop. Do you recommend always raising playable hands in LP?. With a hand like A4s which is basically a drawing hand i mix it up and raise/limp about 50/50 depending on the flow of the game.

Flop. I explained my reasoning for flat calling. Is this thinking flawed?

Turn. I guess you want me to raise more. How much and why?

River. I am not sure i like this but maybe this is because i know that villian held A9o for the nuts. But generally, do you think its +EV to push here?

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

Never mind. Any way, raise the flop.

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

I think you got it mixed up. Hero was on the button.

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

I generally like to take the lead with these kinds of hands on the flop, so I would have raised on the flop. I may mix it up depending on how strong I think I am on the turn and my opponents tendancies, either betting or checking to hopefully induce a river bet.

I would also have raised or folded preflop. With only one caller and you on the button, you are looking to raise and try to take it down there.

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

swolfe

how much should he have raised LP with AXs???

Re: Full ring $200 party - rip my line apart
 

If i were gonna raise i guess it should be my usual preflop raise which is 3-5*BB. 4 should be enough to steal here.

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I would raise preflop to isolate the limper. He most likely has a small pocket pair or medium suited connectors. He'll fold when he misses and you'll take nice little pot while shutting out the people behind you. Also, even if he limped with something like A9s which dominates you, you'll win when you both miss if you raise. Particularly if the flop comes with a K or Q.

The way you played it, I would definitely raise the flop. On the turn a heart will kill your hand or action and if someone pairs their Ax&gt;4 you will pay a lot. On the river, you will again not want to see a heart, someone's kicker, or to pair the turn card. On this particular flop, there is also a straight draw present for someone with 56s or 45s and a gutshot for any 2 or 5. You have to protect your hand by raising to shut out the blinds. If you flat call, you are giving them great odds and it won't be easy to get away from your hand on the turn. You have a good idea of what MP is likely to have (a weak ace or a draw that he is betting) so try to isolate him where you are unlikely to make a mistake. Don't let the blinds in cheaply.