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Ok this may sound mean but I truly do not mean it that way so please don't take it like that. I'm curious. I've seen a lot of posts about people ordering chips and getting Jason to print the labels for them. I'm curious as to why people aren't printing them on their own. Please do not take this as a knock b/c the work I've seen looks AMAZING, but I'm just curious if its the graphics part that you're working on or just the printing. I myself am looking to order nexgens soon and make custom labels and I def want to go high quality so I'm just trying to see what the difference is. Thanks, and please do not take this disrespectfully.

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I had them done because I hate printers. They are evil, evil devices. It was worth it to me to have jason do them. The only color printer I have is an inkjet anyway, my laser is B&W.

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I did 100% art on my labels and had Jason print the first set. While I felt it was worth it, for my second set I wanted to use Vinyl labels and it was more cost effective for me to buy the stock and print myself, as I had access to a laser printer. I will agree that printers are evil, though.

Now if you need art assistance as well, turnkey graphics/printing guys like Jason are a huge bargain...

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It's all about quality. Here's what my printing company says:

Unlike most " custom poker chips" which are nothing more then someone buying 1 inch PAPER stickers at office depot and printing them on their 99.00 Lexmark printer, our images are printed using a $30,000.00
1440 x 1440 DPI printer onto permanent vinyl substrate. They are then put through a $10,000 lamination process which bonds the image and lamination to the chip. The image cannot wear, and the image is virtually impossible to remove from the chip over time. By using a clay/abs composite blank, the chip will not appreciably wear either. As of 2/05 we can now print on the NEXGEN series of chips.

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As of 2/05 we can now print on the NEXGEN series of chips.

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hmmmm.....

Do you have any examples of this? And what is the business proposition? Will you print on nexgen chips, or are you creating your own designs on nexgen chips?

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I don't do the printing, that's just the company I use. I can get samples, no problem. They will print whatever design you desire...

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i'm very interesting in getting more information about this. Is there a minimum order? pricing? how do I get samples?

Let me know. Thanks.

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As of 2/05 we can now print on the NEXGEN series of chips.

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hmmmm.....

Do you have any examples of this? And what is the business proposition? Will you print on nexgen chips, or are you creating your own designs on nexgen chips?

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HRFats - wouldn't be easier if you just PM'd yourself?

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Forget it. It's not worth the hassle you guys are giving me. I have NO business relationship with this company. I was just forwarding information I received from a company that does custom chips. I saw some people payng close to $1.00 per chip with tenpercenter and figured I'd offer a cheaper alternative.

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So, who does this and how much does it cost? They're actually printing on the chips and then some sort of lamination goes on? Doesn't that change the texture of the chip?

I always find it strange when people say they're using massively expensive equipment to do a job. I realize that better equipment usually equals better product, but why aren't they using this expensive equipment to do something more profitable? It's like buying a Jaguar for a demolition derby.

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They probably are doing something more profitable with it... but if you have the gear and can make some money off of a niche market, it's better to do that than have the equipment sit idle.

As to the guy pimping this "printing on chips" or whatever and his strange reaction to our reaction: WTF did you expect man? You've never posted in HP before from what I can tell... you come in here with a pretty obvious spam. It certainly seems as if this is your business or you're a shill. If not... ok, sorry, but it seems as if you are shilling. That's spam and you know how the 2+2 crowd feels about spam. Had you come at the topic with the attitude of, "I have a cool design that this company will print for me, anyone want a group buy?" it would have been much better recieved. I'm also a little concerned that you want to "hold out" the name/link/contact info for this company... you just saving the goods for yourself? My shady meter is pegging on this.

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I think the main reason is the design. To get a decent design you need to use a good graphics program like Photoshop or something and they're expensive. Also it takes time to come up with a good design and create it. As far as the durability of the labels you can use a protective coating from a spray can found at most craft stores.

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I have asked people in the past why they have gone thru me and the top answers are either laser printer or artwork. Alot of people dont have access to a color laser or the knowledge to make the design.

While it is an easy process that anyone can do, if you havent done it before it can be a little stressfull getting the labels aligned. Plus the cost of the blank labels that you have to buy a minimum of. I have talked with people that went out and bought the labels and had them printed at a printing store as well, which in the end still costs the same as getting them from one of us label makers.

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Aligning the labels is always a big problem. Printer uses rollers, therefore, they are not perfectly align everytime they feed the labels in. Printing the images 1/16" off is a big problem since the labels are only 1". Learning how to print using a software is another source of frustration.