Aladdin NL cash games
 

I'm going to Vegas this weekend with a friend, and I noticed that Aladdin spreads 1-2, 2-5, and 5-10 NL on weekends. I haven't seen any other Vegas casinos that regularly spread 5-10 NL, so I was thinking about playing in the 5-10 NL game, and I was wondering if anyone has any experience playing in this game. What should I expect on a typical weekend night? Is the competition that much better than a typical 1-2 or 2-5 NL lineup? What size stack do people usually sit down with in this game?

Thanks!
-Scott

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I know nothing about those games, but I do know The Mirage spreads a 5/10NL.

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I'd avoid that room like the plague. The 2/5 lineup was about the same as what you'd find outside of Freemont street at 3am on a Thursday, total baffoons. 1/2 had all the young Moneymaker wannabes.

If you can't beat either game, you should quit poker.

1/2 buyin was $100 max I believe. 2/5 had a $300 max (totally lame), and most people bought between 1-200. All-in preflop fun.

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I'd avoid that room like the plague. The 2/5 lineup was about the same as what you'd find outside of Freemont street at 3am on a Thursday, total baffoons. 1/2 had all the young Moneymaker wannabes.

If you can't beat either game, you should quit poker.


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So which is it? Sounds like a room you DO NOT want to avoid?

-Ryan

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It is a horribly run room. There are plenty of fish with deeper stacks at the Mirage. Play there.

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Don't listen to tom. He had one problem there when he was shooting an angle, threw a hissy fit and left. His little 'worst floor decision ever' thread can be found....

Here.

Furthermore, two 2+2'ers work in the Aladdin poker room and are both very nice guys. One of them had this to say about tom's play:

You obviously know darn well that if someone re-raises a $40 bet by going all-in for $3 more, that you cannot reraise again. And when you take advantage of an obviously new and inexperienced dealer who doesn't know the rule, you are shooting an angle.

Link to that post in the thread is Here.

I'll let you decide if you think Tom is rating the aladdin objectively or not.

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Explain how asking a question is shooting an angle.

The Mirage runs a much better room than the Alladin. It seemed like it was Joe-Bob's Card room. The dealers are obviously new and unexpirenced, as you said.

Ever been to those home games where you have to explain the rules to the people running the game? That's the Alladin Casino. The dealers do not control the games. The players do. It's that simple. If you don't mind these types of things, then play there all you want and bust the short-stack specialists who lose $100 at a time.

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Hey Tom, when you get your facts straight on the Aladdin, please come back and reply. Otherwise, shut your trap. You had an experience with 1, yes 1 dealer that you are all bent out of shape, so now you lump all the "DEALERS" into the same category. That is completely unfair to the rest of the people that work there. Stop crying and get over it.

By the way...the below was explained in the original thread that you posted. No need to reiterate the explanation.
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Explain how asking a question is shooting an angle.


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I love this room, my fav just behind the mirage. I've stayed there twice in the last 4 months and loved playin there. The drink service is the best by far. The players are soooo bad its awesome. Go there now.

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i thought the aladdin sucked too, the dealers were OUTRAGEOUSLY slow, the floormen seemed confused and there were only like 3 tables going when i was there: a 2-4 limit, a 1-2 nl and a 2-5 nl i think...i played the 1-2 nl but it was going really really slow so i moved to the limit game for some gambooling and it was a little more fun.

rj

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You see Photoc, Tom "dund fergot" this rule...

"Cardrooms generally don't provide towels for crying in, thus you must bring your own."

There are new dealers everywhere in the country, Vegas included, the aladdin included, and lumping everyone into one group based on one incident with one dealer is clearly assinine. Chit will occasionally happen, and it will be gotten over. However, if you intentionally push the envelope and shoot angles (tommy-boy style), you are the one making things go badly, not the dealer.

Too bad it wasn't you or I at the table when ol' tommy boy tried to shoot his angle. I guarantee you I would not have stood for it, and I know you wouldn't either.

al

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I cant wait til I have some cash to play there

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I'm going to Vegas this weekend with a friend, and I noticed that Aladdin spreads 1-2, 2-5, and 5-10 NL on weekends. I haven't seen any other Vegas casinos that regularly spread 5-10 NL, so I was thinking about playing in the 5-10 NL game, and I was wondering if anyone has any experience playing in this game. What should I expect on a typical weekend night? Is the competition that much better than a typical 1-2 or 2-5 NL lineup? What size stack do people usually sit down with in this game?

Thanks!
-Scott

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Hero/girlfriend and I played a 2-5 restricted game Tuesday night at the Aladdin that turned into a 5-10 unrestricted game and as far as I could tell (we were drinking and getting drunker [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ) nobody chipped up. This room seemed to have a very nice atmosphere and we would have played more except for the fact it was not a poker trip. Famous player was also in the above game.

~ Rick

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Actually, I played through 4 dealers. I found all to be among the bottom end of the spectrum. One was truly incompetent. The rest were terribly slow and sloppy.

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Was the famous player Moneymaker?

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Aaladdin is just fine -- games run from OK to REAL GOOD ---
some have had a bad experiance there -- BUT take it with a grain of salt--
Dealers are doing a good job---floor staff is just fine ---
Give it a look and see what you think -------

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Was the famous player Moneymaker?

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Good guess. He seemed to be kicking back and IMO played well (to the extent I noticed, like I said above we were drinking [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). Definitely seemed to be a regular, unassuming sort of guy, but that was my opinion based on everything I've heard before I played with him.

~ Rick

PS BTW, how did you guess? Does he have some sort of play deal at the Aladdin?

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Wasn't a guess really. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I was late getting to Bellagio on Wednesday and couldn't get into a game because of the tournament, so I went over to Alladin to look for a game. They only had a 1-2 blind NL game going. I asked about a 2-5 blind game and the floor said that it would get going as soon as Mr. Moneymaker came down to play.

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Moneymaker has been staying at the hotel this week and when he plays, the lists are a mile long to get into the NL game. People playing 2/4 are putting their name on the list just so they can say they played with a world champion, ROFLMAO. Man, I do love tourists!

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Moneymaker has been staying at the hotel this week and when he plays, the lists are a mile long to get into the NL game. People playing 2/4 are putting their name on the list just so they can say they played with a world champion, ROFLMAO. Man, I do love tourists!

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Wow, we must have been running good. We stopped by the room on our way out for cocktails and there were two seats open. So we had our cocktails at the table [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

~ Rick

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let's put you in the box and we'll critique your dealing. I'll be sure to have a couple red pens, in case one runs out. It's NOT as easy as you think.

Then your bitterness can still go play elsewhere next time. I think the orleans, with all its bitter, angle shooting regulars, would be right up your alley.

You had a bad experience, caused by your own bad behavior, and now everyone at the aladdin sucks. Whatever tommy boy, the orleans has a nice long list full of old crones that is waiting for your name to be on it.

And before you try to attack the dealing of myself or Photoc, I was off the day of your debacle, and Photoc didn't work there at the time.

al

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As much fun as it is to fight about pointless stuff... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] ... would you mind commenting on the original question in this thread, the 5-10 NL game? This thread is the only place that I've seen any mention of any 5-10 NL game in Vegas. Someone else mentioned the Mirage spreads it... how often do these games run? I'm considering a trip to Vegas and wouldn't mind playing in those games if they are sufficiently fishy. Do these games attract better players, or are they similar to many of the 2-5 games?

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What limits are the Aladdin currently spreading in the limit HE games? Any higher limits like 15/30 or 20/40 being played there? Thanks...

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Well we've been having some 10/20 O8 lately, but that is about it past 4/8 or the NL's. Seems that the steady higher end action will probably stay with Mirage/Bellagio and Wynn when it opens with Danny N. working for them exclusively.

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Mirage had an interest list for a 5/10NL when I was there. 2/5 was pretty deep and had tons of fish, so I felt no need to try to get it started.

As for Al, I've played in about 10 cardrooms/casinos in different places (only 2 in Vegas). The four dealers I sat through at the Aladdin were among the 10 worst dealers I've ever played with. Maybe I was unlucky, but even the worst dealer I played with at the Mirage was better than the best dealer I saw at the Aladdin. I never claimed to be a good dealer, but when I play somewhere and pay rake and tips, I want them to be professionals, not clowns. If I go to a doctor and get horribly disfigured, according to your (non)logic, since I have never been a doctor, I have no right to complain.

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May as well say it here i'm going down to the Aladdin tonight to play some 1/2 NL holdem.Anyone else gonna be there?

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Photoc, why do you answer his question about limit games while ignoring my almost identical question about NL games. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I've never dealt the 5/10 no limit game and thus have no comment on it. By the time I come in, that came usually is just about to break up or already has. It usually starts as a 2/5 game and morphs into a 5/10 with the option to chip up (No max). The last time I saw it going, the average stack was around 1k-1.2k.

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So it's not a regular game? It just sort of "happens" sometimes?

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Our motto is: "If you build it, they will come". It seems no matter what we build, players will play. For some reason, the people that come in refuse to wait more than 15 minutes on a list for anything. I always tell people that it's better than a 2 hour wait at the Bellagio. But they all want instant gratification or they say "i'll check back later". They come back later and magically expect that there are going to be 10 seats waiting for them.

We had 4 solid games on grave today and everytime someone came in, the above is what they would say. We finally got interest lists for 2/5NL, 4/8 and 5/10 by 10am.

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For some reason, the people that come in refuse to wait more than 15 minutes on a list for anything.

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This is typical of peopel on vacation at a casino. They came to gamble and they want to gamble now. That is one of the main reasons that rooms that don't cater to hard core players have better games (but not as solid of games).

RR

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I was there Tues. I played limit, but my buddy played with Money. It was 2/5. Photoc, if you don't mind me asking, what is your dealer name? If you were working Tues I may have had you. I played at a 3/6 that got busted, waited patiently, and finally got a seat at the 3/6 kill game. I love the room, definitely in my top three. And the dealers are great. What was the deal with the really hot chick that came in in the very short black skirt and top? Is she a new hire?

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I wasn't there when Money was playing since I dont work nights. I'd remember that chick. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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For some reason, the people that come in refuse to wait more than 15 minutes on a list for anything.

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This is typical of peopel on vacation at a casino. They came to gamble and they want to gamble now. That is one of the main reasons that rooms that don't cater to hard core players have better games (but not as solid of games). - RR


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Good point again. This may be why a small room right off the main floor like the Flamingo seems to have good games.

~ Rick

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I was there Tues. I played limit, but my buddy played with Money. It was 2/5.

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Was your buddy in the nine seat? He seemed like a 2+2 type. If so, we were the obnoxious drunk couple that played for about an hour on either side of him [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

~ Rick

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No, I'd say he was in the six seat, two to Money's right. He was left of the asian guy with the REALLY hot girlfriend who stood behind him for awhile.

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To play in the $30 tourneys at Aladdin, how soon prior to the tourneys do yo need to be there? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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To sign up or to play?

To sign up, we start taking paid entries at 4am when the grave shift manager comes in. Mon-thurs only. The tournye is basically full by 830/9am. We had 27 alternates this past thursday. Record turnout.

Once you are paid, just show up 15-20 mins prior to make sure the seating arraingements are correct. As we've had to shift live games and tournament table #'s around a bit because of unexpected turnout vs live action.

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I know this has already been hashed through, but I just thought I'd throw my $0.02 in to say that I had a ton of fun playing the Aladdin's room in December. Well run tourneys, good dealers, and a very reasonable floorperson. At one point, my 3/6 game was 3-handed, and the floor voluntarily dropped the rake to $0. I was psyched to say the least!

Photoc/Al -- have the NL games been getting tougher since you opened the room & 2+2ers have started to descent on it, or have they stayed about the same? The 1-2 was pretty good, but not as good as Party's NL$50, when I was there in December.

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Photoc or Al can you call ahead to reserve spot in the AM tourny or do you have to sign up in person? If you can call mind giving out the # me and some friends plan on hitting it up when they come in town and wanna make sure all of us get in it,if they really are full by 8:30 or 9 am. P.S. as for the Aladdin dealers, they were awesome last night , i even hit a high hand jackpot with quad 5's i doubled up playing 1/2 NL and won another $ 50 for the quads ! Tipped the dealer nicely.