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Greek chip design help
Well, I just got a couple samples of art from pokerchips.com. These are not acutal proofs, just some starts of ideas. My initial thought process for this order is here.
Please share your thoughts. Maybe an ancient greek ship would make a good image too? I still think I like the idea of the Athena owl, but not how it's been applied so far. For denominations, I was maybe thinking about writing them out to scroll the text across the top and bottom, but written out in Greek instead of English. The numbers would still go on the chip as well. http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/dat...756unknown.jpg Here's a decent boat image I just found... http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/756Boat.jpg |
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I like the boat image a lot, but right now it relies on the frame of the image too much. You're about to convert a square image to a round one. so the waves will have to go. The crummy thing is that the waves at the front of the boat are pretty important. Before you decide on using that boat, try formatting it for a chip.
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hard to view the images- how do you make them larger?
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The samples from pokerchips.com were just that small size. Making the image any bigger just pixelized the images.
Here's a couple crude mock ups of a helmet and a couple ships. Still missing denominations (in red?) and greek lettering scrolled across the top and bottom. Are these images better than the owl in the other thread and/or better than mythological creatures? I think they're more simple and classic, and less "busy". http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/dat...reeks_copy.jpg |
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Do they limit you to the number of colors you can use in your design? Or do they charge more for more colors? I just think you could really dress them up if your going to pay alot to have them labeled.
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Do they limit you to the number of colors you can use in your design? Or do they charge more for more colors? I just think you could really dress them up if your going to pay alot to have them labeled. [/ QUOTE ] It's just a flat $50 charge for the entire order for full color graphics (vs. black and white). So yes, I don't really have any limits regarding color, only whatever I can come up with. Which isn't that much, as you can see. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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More revisions. I think I'm definitely going to go with 8 different pictures now. I probably won't use the cerberus that's in this picture though.
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looking good.
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Here's another update. All 8 chips and the approximate colors. Changed the ship, but not sure which one I like better. I'd like to do an image of the trojan horse, but couldn't find a good graphic. Does the Roman mold fit this theme the best? I don't really care for it, and was planning on the A mold.
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I'd like to do an image of the trojan horse, but couldn't find a good graphic. [/ QUOTE ] You'll want to change the colors, of course, but here's an images I found. Strip out the colors and it's about the right level of detail and pomp as your other images. It might be too low-res, though. -Sam http://www.thundercloud.net/security/horse.gif |
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Here's another update. All 8 chips and the approximate colors. [/ QUOTE ] I agree w/ Ten... it's comming along nicely. Is the owl to be a non-denom chip? [ QUOTE ] Changed the ship, but not sure which one I like better. [/ QUOTE ] I prefer the first ship [ QUOTE ] Does the Roman mold fit this theme the best? I don't really care for it, and was planning on the A mold. [/ QUOTE ] I'd use the Alpha (or Athena) mold also [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]! Just not a fan of the Roman-o. - Fins |
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I agree w/ Ten... it's comming along nicely. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks guys! I've been looking at these for so long, it's been tough for me to be objective and tell if it's working. [ QUOTE ] Is the owl to be a non-denom chip? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, the owl will be a non-denom chip. Mostly to be used as 25¢, 50¢ or $2 depending on the cash game. (Or a $10,000 chip if I ever hold a large tournament I guess [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ) Is it too plain compared to the rest? I was trying to think of something else I could do with it, but haven't been able to. [ QUOTE ] I prefer the first ship... I'd use the Alpha (or Athena) mold also [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]! Just not a fan of the Roman-o. - Fins [/ QUOTE ] I agree with both of these. Looking at them again, I like the first ship too. And definitely the Athena mold for these chips. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Well, I just got my proof from pokerchips.com based on my original ideas. I like how the pillars/ruins came out. But I am still thinking I should ask for new proofs based on what I came up with this past weekend (the pics in this thread).
Here's what they came up with. Thoughts? http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/75619416.jpg |
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Okay, I didn't really like what pokerchips.com came up with, but it was my own fault for being really vauge in the beginning. I just sent them the artwork I've been using this weekend.
So here's my final revision I post before I get the proofs back from the graphic designer. Promise. :P I went back with the original ship, and found a different Chimera graphic that suits the other images a little better. I also spruced up the non-denom owl with a greek key circle. That chip seemed too lacking vs. the others. I didn't end up using a trojan horse. The images posted were good, but I felt I needed one in profile to match the rest of the set. And now the cash chips have "real" images (including the owl), and the tournament chips are all mythological. I suppose if my cash games ever get big enough for 10-20, I could get a $20 chip and revisit the trojan horse idea. Doubtful, but here's hoping. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Hopefully I'll get the final proofs within a week, and then the long long wait begins... http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/dat...reek_theme.jpg |
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Looks good... I really like the greek key around the owl, definitely needed something like that to spruce it up. Just curious what the text says on the chips. Seems to be similar letters on each chip and was wondering if this was needed as some of the text is long?? Didn't know if it referenced "dollars" or something where that could be left off? Also, hopefully they can work on the wrap to better match the arc... also I'm assuming they will adjust the images as not to overlap the denoms like in the $25, $100 & $500.
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Looks good... I really like the greek key around the owl, definitely needed something like that to spruce it up. Just curious what the text says on the chips. Seems to be similar letters on each chip and was wondering if this was needed as some of the text is long?? Didn't know if it referenced "dollars" or something where that could be left off? Also, hopefully they can work on the wrap to better match the arc... also I'm assuming they will adjust the images as not to overlap the denoms like in the $25, $100 & $500. - Fins [/ QUOTE ] Right on all counts. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] First time I've used the arch tool in photoshop. I'm sure they'll fix the wrap. Mine definitely aren't good. Or consistant. And yes, one of the things the designer told me today was that the images can't overlap. So they'll be fixing that as well. I just hope the images I've used aren't too low-res. Or if they are, that they can get high res images that are really similar. The text is just the denominations written out in greek, yes. I liked chips I saw with wrapping text like that, but couldn't come up with a good slogan or phrase. I put the word "dollars" in there too as a few of the chips would have been too short with out it. Some are really long though. I guess we'll see how they clean them up. At that point I can decide if I should take off the dollars text. |
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Well, here's what they came up with. Not that close to my design, and I even talked to the graphic designer about everything!
Looking at these proofs though makes me think the ship should also be in silhouette form, to match the rest of the images. Any thoughts? I am also considering pushing for the 1" inlay rather than the 7/8". I was told they don't do this anymore when I placed my order, but I just found out they did it for another recent order. Any opinions on the different inlay sizes? Here's the proof. I think the artist is so far behind, she just put this together quickly to try and get it approved and off her desk. I think the arched greek text really makes the chip better, and will push for all the changes necessary to get them close to what I came up with (I have 8 changes so far). http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/756194161.jpg |
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Are you sure they will do a 1 inch inlay? As far as wrapped text, it would help to see a comparison between the two
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Are you sure they will do a 1 inch inlay? As far as wrapped text, it would help to see a comparison between the two [/ QUOTE ] I talked to them today, and they said they do still make the 1" inlay, but VERY rarely. They also said it's a different production run, and wait time for a 1" could be a long, long time. When I first started my order in Jan, I asked them about it and was told no way. I think it you just have to be really persistant with them. For a crude example of the wrapped text, see my hack job mock ups (the color pictures) above. When I spoke with the designer today, we decided to try the redesign with the denomination on one side only. Basically one side will have the greek text scrolled along the top, my initials scrolled at the bottom, and the large center graphic in black in the center. The opposite side will have the same text, the center picture in light gray as a backdrop, and the denomination in large red lettering in the center of the chip over the light silhouette. |
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I'm sure you're all tired of it, but here's (hopefully) my final revision. All the text, the graphic and the denomination was too much to fit on the chip, so the denomination is being put on one side only. Many thanks to TabascoJRC for his ASM photoshop template! I did change most of the colors to the pantone values I found on this site somewhere.
Please let me know which font you prefer for the denominations: http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/dat...alcash-med.jpg http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/dat...naltourney.jpg |
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Spacemonkey,
nice work, you really have got a nice set here. i really like the border around the owl for the non-denomination chip. i think that the greek number is the way to go (the right hand chips). it completes the theme and looks great. cheers, the Real Macoy |
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Without a doubt, it has to be the Greek font for the denominations... and it's not even close :P
The owl doesn't have a $0.25 or $0.50 denom? I really like the faded image with the denomination over it- nicely done The one image that doesn't seem to "fit" is the statue head- can't it be stylized like the others were? Also, should the owl be darker? On a side note, all of you people with your great designs are driving me crazy! I'm going to have to do labels... |
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Very nice, I prefer the non-denom version.. but if your going with the denoms then I prefer the greek font.
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I'm sure you're all tired of it... [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this is possible in this forum [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I think the greek font numbers go better with the theme, also. What about making the text on the denom number side say something more personal? That way you have the text denoms on the figure side and just numbers (not duplicated with text) on the faded/overlay side... just a thought... could use your family names in greek (yours, wife's maiden (if applicable), mothers maiden etc...) or anctient greek cities or your home town or poker or a short greek saying (e.g. yamos, is that right? or such)... or something I'm sure much more personal/clever. - Fins |
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Thanks guys. Greek font it is.
On a side note, I was asked today by the graphic designer for my photoshop file. I'm really hesisitant for several reasons: The shadowed images on the denomination side are not a consistant color level; I don't know the "right/perfect" size for the center graphics; and the font size and arch of the lettering on the top of the chips is a total hack job, just for looks (nothing consistant about them either). Any suggestions for how to proceed? On a color note, does anyone think I have too much orange tones in my last three chips? Purple/Arc Yellow, Orange/Blue, Chocolate/Day Glow Peach. And to answer some questions: The owl is a non-denomination, and will be used as 25¢, 50¢ or $2 depending on the cash game. Plus this way I get to use the Greek Key scroll. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] You're right about Zeus. I couldn't find a good black/white drawing that I liked. It does stand out, but I was thinking that's okay since it is Zeus, and it is the $5000 chip. Plus now I'm starting to get a little ansy about finalizing my order, as I started this process the beginning of January. I'm still hoping I get my chips before Memorial Day, but I know it's a slim chance now. Spooky: I am going with the denominations on one side and the full black/white graphic on the opposite side. Technically the greek text is the denominations written out, so they are on both sides. And Fins, that's a good idea for a slogan or something else on the denomination side. I'd just have to come up with something good. But I think I've used up all my creativity for the month already. That's part of the reason I spelled out the denominations in the first place. I wanted Greek text, but couldn't come up with something. And I didn't want to use my name, or "card room" or something like that. But with this layout, I should take advantage of it. We'll see. |
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Hey spooky, what do you think of this chip set...
Ten http://www.ccgtcc.com/fantasy/images/halloween.jpg |
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On a side note, I was asked today by the graphic designer for my photoshop file. I'm really hesisitant for several reasons: The shadowed images on the denomination side are not a consistant color level; I don't know the "right/perfect" size for the center graphics; and the font size and arch of the lettering on the top of the chips is a total hack job, just for looks (nothing consistant about them either). Any suggestions for how to proceed? [/ QUOTE ]I think these are valid concerns. Can you just provide the font & graphics? Why can't they do it up for you...time? There are some whizzes in this forum - maybe someone would help you out for a sample set? If you post your graphics I'll mess with it but I don't know what font your are using not to mention I'm far from skilled [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. [ QUOTE ] On a color note, does anyone think I have too much orange tones in my last three chips? Purple/Arc Yellow, Orange/Blue, Chocolate/Day Glow Peach. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe, I see your concern. I think I'm not crazy about the choc. chip being the $5000. I was wondering if DG-pink body w/ red spots (like an inverse of Dre0000's on TH-P) would look good but I don't know how "brittle" the DG colors are when used as a body color. I like the yellow for $5000 but then I'm not sure I like a choc. non-denom though it might get the similar color chips away from each other. Also, you're probably sick of thinking about colors but purple might look good on the orange in place of blu... just thought I'd throw it out. [ QUOTE ] It does stand out, but I was thinking that's okay since it is Zeus, and it is the $5000 chip. [/ QUOTE ] He may have been refering to the fact that the Zeus' silhouette doesn't really look like Zeus or even a head for that matter... but I don't know. [ QUOTE ] But I think I've used up all my creativity for the month already. [/ QUOTE ] LOL... been there... pretty draining... it'll all be worthwhile... the sad part is once you get the design set it's breakdown time... what to do [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Good luck & enjoy (or try [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) the process, Fins |
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LOL, scary... but not my style.
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your set kicks ass. congrats. use the greek numbering, and fix that zeus head! |
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Check these fonts out for images... you may have run across them but might be worth down loading and seeing how they look at large size.
Also, I agree with the some of the numbers not looking right i.e. $25. Also, why do you have the denom online with the value as opposed to superscript... is that a greek thing? - Fins |
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Also, I agree with the some of the numbers not looking right i.e. $25. Also, why do you have the denom online with the value as opposed to superscript... is that a greek thing? - Fins [/ QUOTE ] Heh. No. It's an "I don't know much about photoshop and/or text" thing. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I knew it was in the wrong place, but these were always just for me to get comfortable with the layout. It's turning out to be a lot more than that, but I don't really mind. I've already suppied all the graphics and fonts, but I've been going back and cleaning up the graphics even more. I found a photoshop tutorial for doing text in a circle so I'll play around with that and a lot of other things this weekend. Can anyone tell me how to make the $ symbol a superscript? [ QUOTE ] There are some whizzes in this forum - maybe someone would help you out for a sample set? If you post your graphics I'll mess with it but I don't know what font your are using not to mention I'm far from skilled . [/ QUOTE ] Anyone willing to help out, PM me your email addy. You'll find out how these small jpgs hide all my hack job work. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] think I'm not crazy about the choc. chip being the $5000. [/ QUOTE ]Hmm. Well, I do like the idea of a choc. chip. Since the non-denom is DG yellow, I could get away with a yellow/purple (or lavender) $5000. That yellow is more of a mustard, and different enough. I was actually orginally thinking lavender or purple for the edge spot of the orange chip, but neither matched that well in my mock ups. Options, options, options. [ QUOTE ] Good luck & enjoy (or try ) the process [/ QUOTE ] Despite some griping, I am enjoying this. I've always wanted to improve my photoshop skills beyond "auto level/contrast/color. So this has been a great excuse, due to my obsession, OCD, and displeasure/frustration of the first two proofs the company did for me after over a month. How to pass the wait time once I'm actually done with these? Maybe do some Chipco african themed mock ups. Tribal art patterns, maybe animals too? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] |
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As far as the Zeus thing, you may be able to manipulate the picture in Photoshop to make it more black and white, without the grey. Try messing with the contrast levels.
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This font is easier to read, and has better 2's and 5's. But it's still "Greek". Let me know if you like it better. Don't mind the asterisks around my initials, nor the inconsistant centering jobs.
Text is better too, but not to a point where I'm comfortable using it. I still have to clean up some of the graphics and figure out what to do about Zeus. http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/dat...756adonais.jpg |
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Spacemonkey,
I like these changes! That font is much easier to read. |
Hydras
Getting close to the end, I hope. Which hydra looks the best and/or matches the rest of the images the best? (Zeus to come later)
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Getting close to the end, I hope. Which hydra looks the best and/or matches the rest of the images the best? (Zeus to come later) http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/756hydras.jpg [/ QUOTE ] lower left ten |
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definately agree with Ten here. lower left hydra is the best.
as far as the changed font. it looks good, although the "more" greek lettering also looked better with the overall theme. the new one is cleaner and thus you were able to increase the size of the numbers, which makes reading easier. although i definately don't think anyone would be confused by the original numbering. cheers, the Real Macoy |
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Thanks guys! How about these new $5000 chip pictures? I'm also thinking about putting solid (black) diamonds to surround my initials. It should balance the upper text a little better. Don't mind the poor text in these pics.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/756zeus.jpg |
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I think definitely upper left... same Zeus as before.
Maybe you could just do a lightened negative of Zeus for the back. The diamonds sound ok. - Fins |
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