I need to get an critical opinion

[Johnny]

Hello ME,
You have recently requested your transcript of the game number 723993085.


***** Hand History for Game *****
15/30 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 4502825)
Table Table 11020 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: *ME*(850)
Seat 2: KentAhlfors (740)
Seat 3: bolt66 (785)
Seat 4: irish1010 (1595)
Seat 5: maqua (1645)
Seat 7: NipponTerror (15)
Seat 8: bobnoxious (770)
Seat 9: DBC987 (785)
Seat 10: snichols123 (815)
bolt66 posts small blind (10)
irish1010 posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to *ME* [ Ac, Qc ]
maqua calls (15)
NipponTerror folds.
bobnoxious calls (15)
DBC987 folds.
snichols123 calls (15)
*ME* calls (15)
KentAhlfors folds.
bolt66 calls (5)
irish1010 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 4c, Js ]
bolt66 bets (15)
irish1010 calls (15)
maqua folds.
bobnoxious calls (15)
snichols123 calls (15)
*ME* calls (15)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
bolt66 checks.
irish1010 checks.
bobnoxious checks.
snichols123 bets (80)

I am next to act. The pot is $165. He just bet $80. I have an open ended straight draw which will probably be the best hand if it hits. The bettor has $705 stack left. I have a $820 left. Considering that it was bet on the flop $15, and that there are three people that are left in the hand. What is the best thing to do in this situation?

[Peter Harris]

1) use bison's hand converter to elicit more responses. We hate looking at scripts.

2) RAISE PF with AQs!!! Every time.

3) flop call is fine.

4) i would call the turn, you have no immediate odds but if you get callers your implied odds are fine; no flush draw, i wouldn't expect to see a raise as this table is sooooo passive.

When an A comes be careful, you may be shown A-rag 2 pair, a Q is worrying as any 9 wins. if you hit your "double belly buster" [this is not actually an OESD...as such...i mean, it is but isnt QJT9, it's 8_TJQ_A which is called a double-belly-buster, better concealed than OESD].

Summary: call, hope for overcallers and jack it up when 9/K falls.

Regards,
Pete Harris

[Girazze]

You have AQ and the flop is T4J.....you don't have an open-ended straight draw. You have a gut-shot straight draw, needing the K. T80 is pretty weak for him to have much but I'm certain he has you beat. I would fold here. You can push and try to steal the pot but with all the weak betting earlier, he'd most likely know it was a bluff and call the all-in. You could call and hope for a K on the river. The T80 bet is weak so may be worth calling.

[Johnny]

check the hand again. i got a a draw open ended

[Girazze]

I'm obviously missing something here. So far there is AQ with a board of JT48. Where's the open-ended draw? You have a straight draw but not open-ended. Big difference. If a K was on the board but not the T, you would still have a straight draw....not an open-ended straight draw because the Ace closes one end. Open-ended straight draw means you have 4 cards in a row with another card on either end making the straight.

[amirpc]

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I'm obviously missing something here. So far there is AQ with a board of JT48. Where's the open-ended draw? You have a straight draw but not open-ended. Big difference. If a K was on the board but not the T, you would still have a straight draw....not an open-ended straight draw because the Ace closes one end. Open-ended straight draw means you have 4 cards in a row with another card on either end making the straight.

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A K or a 9 give him a straight, I don't know if the term open ended straight draw still applies but its the same number of outs. I think this is also refered to as a double belly buster.

[Johnny]

check and check closely on the turn its open ended

[Nepa]

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check and check closely on the turn its open ended

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This isn't called and open ender thought it does have the same amt. of outs. It is called a Double Belly Buster St8 Draw where a 9 or a king could make your st8.