Can I call this on the flop?

[Riposte]

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero (poster) checks, CO calls, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds, CO calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

River: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 7.50 BB, won by SB.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to SB.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins 8.50 BB. </font>

[Greg J]

I dont think you should EVER post unless you are in the CO position or the big blind (preferably the CO).

Fold looks good to me. But what do i know?

[Jaran]

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But what do i know?

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Enough to fold this here.

-Jaran

[afk]

Good fold.

Also, I generally don't like posting anywhere out of the cutoff.

[SteveY]

I don't get why the cutoff is a better place to post. Can anyone enlighten me?

[nothumb]

Because you're in good position and don't mind paying for a hand so much. Why post from early position when the range of hands you'd be happy to play from there is so small? In the CO you're more likely to catch a playable hand and you've got some position in case the BB special comes through.

Can you call this on the flop? Only if you're playing with Defense Department money. 8 to 1 on a gutshot isn't bad if it's to the nuts and there are a lot of loose callers, but you're drawing to a one card gutshot that's quite likely got a bigger draw against it. Fold fold fold that crap crap crap.

NT

[SteveY]

I understand that posting in CO is better than posting anywhere else outside the blinds, since in EP/MP you're more picky about your starting hands.

But what I usually do is wait for the big blind to post. I almost never post at the cutoff. And GregJ said he actually preferred to post in the CO which kind of baffles me. Is there really a difference? I mean why would you want to put your money in to get a random hand when you don't have to post at all?

[Greg J]

In my opinion, there are times when getting into a game earlier pays for itself in the long run. This is particularly true on the micro limit tables, esp the nano limits I play.

on the other hand...

But you bring up an interesting point. Maybe I am acting suboptimally by paying half a BB I don't have to (actually less b/c of the occasional decent hand or good flop). While I'm confident this is not a huge leak in my game, perhaps it's a small one I should plug. Thanks for the input.

Thoughts? Pros and cons of the BB vs the CO?

[zuvis]

I post in the BB or the CO.

From CO you pay 1 SB to see 6 hands.
From BB you pay 1 SB + .5 SB to see 10 hands.
etc...

At least that's how I've always looked at it.

[blackaces13]

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From CO you pay 1 SB to see 6 hands.

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If its a 10 handed table you see 7 hands I believe making it a smart play.